49ers Claim Thad Gibson Off Waivers, Resulting in Another Bad 4th-Round Pick by Colbert

Everyone knew the Pittsburgh Steelers would have to cut a player to sign a defensive lineman before Sunday’s game at New Orleans. But most Steelers insiders were surprised that the team released its 2010 fourth-round pick, OLB Thad Gibson, to make room to sign Steve McLendon from the practice squad.

However, it was not surprising that multiple teams attempted to claim Gibson off waivers, with the 49ers winning his rights. I doubt the Steelers’ front office was naive enough to believe that an athletic, 21-year-old prospect who carried a 3rd- or 4th-round grade before the draft and looked good in preseason would clear waivers, thus making it to the practice squad.

Thus, I am assuming they had given up on Gibson, which would mean another bad fourth-round pick by Kevin Colbert, the director of football operations for the Steelers.

DO NOT MISINTERPRET: This post is not a hit job on Colbert, who I like drafting for the Steelers. He is arguably the best in the league in the ultra-important first round, in large part because he drafts on college production, filling needs with players who fit the Steelers’ schemes while taking few risks in the opening round.

After the 1st round, Colbert has essentially been an average drafter, with plenty of hits and more misses, like almost everyone else in the league. But in the fourth-round, I’d rather have any reader of this blog draft for the Steelers in that one round based on Colbert’s history.

Gibson actually represented good value in the fourth round of a loaded 3-4 OLB draft in 2010. But his selection by the Steelers was even more surprising than his eventual release before ever playing a snap in a regular-season game.

That is because the Steelers had reached somewhat to grab the OLB prospect they coveted in Jason Worilds in the 2nd round. The Steelers did need depth at OLB behind superstars James Harrison and LaMarr Woodley. On a good note, Worilds has already eradicated the unfair Alonzo Jackson comparisons by being a stalwart on kick coverage and contributing as a speed, edge rusher against the Dolphins when Woodley was sidelined and replaced by inside linebacker Lawrence Timmons for the most part except when Worilds came in to speed rush.

Although he is not having a great 2010, Woodley is likely to return to the Steelers in 2011 either because (A) no CBA is reached before the summer enabling Pittsburgh to retain his rights; (B) a CBA is reached and he signs a long-term deal with the Steelers; or (C) a CBA is reached and Woodley is given the franchise tag by the Steelers (assuming one is included in the new CBA) while the two sides work towards a long-term deal.

The fact that Harrison signed a six-year contract after the 2008 season added to the insanity of the Gibson pick. Assuming Worilds was not a bust, no one could foresee Gibson getting any serious PT for several years despite his long-term potential.

But wasting a fourth-round pick has been commonplace since Colbert took over the Steelers’ drafts in 2000. In general, the vast majority of fourth-round picks make the roster of the team that drafted them as rookies and most teams expect that at least half would eventually evolve into contributors, with a few becoming starters.

Amazingly, though, Gibson marks the fourth of Colbert’s 11 selections in the 4th round who were cut before ever playing one regular-season down for the Steelers and three more of his 4th-round picks collectively only saw a few regular-season snaps for the Steelers.

Here are Colbert’s 4th-round picks with a grade based on how they fared and also taking into account where they were rated by most draft experts and if Colbert was attempting to fill an actual need instead of just taking an OLB without causation as is often his wont.

2000 – Danny Farmer, WR, UCLA. Grade D-: This was a bit of a reach for a guy at a non-need position at the time since the Steelers had drafted Plaxico Burress in the first round that year. Farmer was cut by the Steelers after training camp of his rookie season. He did see a little action with the Bengals over the next couple of years.

2001 – Mathias Nkwenti, OT, Temple. Grade D: This was another ridiculous pick pushed for by former Steelers offensive line coach Russ Grimm, who disagreed with the draft projections of almost every other coach in the league and seemingly liked his tackles to be 6-foot-4 or under. The 6-foot-3 Nkwenti was projected as a late-round project by most. He did spend three years on the Steelers roster as a deep reserve, but was awful in the only two games where he saw any action.

2002- Larry Foote, ILB, Michigan. Grade A-
: Foote, who returned to Pittsburgh this fall after a 1-year stint with Detroit, has been a solid situational run-stuffer for the Steelers, starting 5 years but mostly as a 1- or 2-down player who leaves the field on passing downs. Still, he is a tackling machine. The only reason Foote does not get a grade of A is because decent run-stuffing inside linebackers who lack athleticism are often found in the 4th or 5th rounds.

2003- Ike Taylor, CB, La. Laf. Grade A+: By far, Colbert’s best fourth-round pick and one of his best overall picks with the Steelers, the athletic Taylor is in his sixth season as a starter and has emerged as one of the league’s most under-rated corners. Although he is prone to mental lapses, Taylor played at a Pro Bowl level in 2005, 2007 and 2008 but did not make the game in any of those years due to his poor hands. This year, though, he is playing superb football again and with two interceptions already on the books, Taylor is well on his way to breaking his career high of three and possibly earning his first Pro Bowl selection. Getting a starting No. 1 CB in the fourth round was a steal by Colbert.

2004- Steelers did not have a fourth-round pick.


2005- Fred Gibson, WR, Georgia. Grade D-
: Gibson was considered a draft steal, since he was rated as a late 2nd or 3rd rounder in a very deep WR class of 2005. The Steelers needed depth at the position, so most Pittsburgh fans were excited by this pick. It turns out that Gibson, who also played basketball at Georgia, preferred flag football, since he did not like giving or receiving contact. He did not make the Steelers’ roster as a rookie. Afterward, he spent parts of the next two years on the Dolphins’ practice squad but never played in an NFL game.

2006a- Willie Colon, OT, Hofstra. Grade A: Colbert’s second best fourth-round pick, Colon was the only under-sized tackle ever preferred by Grimm who ended up a good selection. He surprised many by winning the RT job over Max Starks in 2007 and improved each season before suffering a season-ending Achilles tear this offseason that currently has him on IR. Colon gets some stupid penalties and struggled with speed rushers early in his career, but is a dominant run blocker and had improved his pass-blocking skills before his injury.

2006b- Orien Harris, DL, Miami. Grade D
: Another player cut by the Steelers as a rookie, Harris did stick around in the NFL as a marginal roster player/practice-squad member for several seasons, seeing his only extensive action in 2008 as a second-teamer for the Bengals who saw action in 14 games. Colbert cannot be blamed for this pick, since the Steelers needed depth and definitely some youth on the defensive line. But Harris was not physical in training camp and long-time Steelers defensive line coach John Mitchell prefers veterans on his roster.

2007a- Daniel Sepulveda, P, Baylor: Grade B-: “Robo Punter” marked one of the Steleers’ most intriguing picks in recent years, although long-time Steelers beat writer Ed Bouchette hated the selection. Sepulveda proved an immediate upgrade from his horrendous predecessor, Mitch Berger. He was mediocre in 2007 and 2009 (missing 2008 with an ALC tear), but is having by far his best season in 2010, averaging career bests of 46.9 yards and 40.5 net yards per punt, although that still only ranks 18th among NFL punters. Sepulved is no better than an average punter at the NFL level thus far. Since he is one of only 10 punters selected in the first four rounds of the NFL Draft over the last 20 years, I was hoping for better than average.

2007b- Ryan McBean, DL, Oklahoma State. Grade D+: The McBean situation almost mirrored Harris. The Steelers needed youth and depth on the defensive line, and McBean was by far the highest rated 3-4 DE left on the board at the end of the 4th round. But he did not make the team, was signed to the practice squad, and dressed for one game as a member of the Pittsburgh Steelers before being cut. Ironically, he resurfaced as a 14-game starter for a marginal Broncos’ defensive line last year and is now a part-time player for Denver. Pittsburgh probably gave up on McBean too quickly. But that is not Colbert’s fault (blame it on Mithcell) and McBean is still nothing more than a borderline NFL player.

2008- Tony Hills, OT, Texas. Grade D+: Colbert’s biggest fault has been that he has ignored the offensive line too often early in the daft, as the Steelers in 2008 and 2009 where the only team in the NFL that did not have a former first- or second-round pick starting on its offensive line, and it showed. 2008 was another year when a major need on the offensive line was not addressed by Colbert until the 4th round. At that point, Hills, who most forecasted as a project and a boom-or-bust type, was the highest rated OT left on the board and worth drafting, since Colbert had inexcusably passed over OL Oniel Cousins in the 3rd round to draft another unneeded OLB and eventual bust in Bruce Davis. After looking awful in preseason and practices while seeing no game action in his first two eyars, Hills looked like a longshot to make the Steelers’ roster this fall. But he had a strong preseason and was viewed as possibly the team’s LT of the future afterward. However, after seeing his first and probably last game action against the Titans in week No. 2, the bust label has been re-attached to Hills.

2009- Steelers did not have a fourth-round pick.

2010- Thad Gibson, OLB, Ohio State. Grade D-: As previously noted, Gibson made the 53-man roster as the No. 9 OLB but was not active for any of the Steelers’ first six games before being cut to create a roster spot for a defensive lineman. He was subsequently claimed by the 49ers off waivers. Like Fred Gibson and Harris, Thad Gibson offered good value in the fourth round. But this pick was far, far dumber, because the Steelers did not need two OLBs in the first four rounds of the 2010 NFL Draft, since their top five LBs are the best quintet in the NFL. The hope was that Gibson would develop down the road into a contributor. He may still, but it will be with another team.

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  • http://www.steelerslounge.com/ ryan

    I’d just point out that it probably wasn’t Colbert’s decision to cut Gibson. Everybody in the building may have loved him but in the coaches eyes, the linebacker position had the most depth. It also may not have been Colbert who pushed for Gibson on draft day. I don’t think this reflects poorly on Colbert as much as it points to the Steelers’ roster being loaded. Plus, the other fourth-rounder, Antonio Brown (not to mention fifth-rounder Stevenson Sylvester) have had a pretty good go of it in 2010.

    • Ted

      The 2010 draft looks like a good one for the Steelers, Ryan, although Brown went in the sixth round. Ultimately, Colbert has final calls on all draft picks, although I am sure he is pushed by different folks all the time. My problems with the Gibson pick are that there were no clear paths to see how he would get any PT for 3 years at the minimum and that Colbert has a history of drafting OLBs when they are not needed while ignoring positions of need, like the o-line.

      I am still furious at the Alonzo Jackson and Bruce Davis, both of which – J.J. can confirm – I called as busts at the time and neither of which filled a need at the time they were drafted.

      • Cols714

        You’re furious because the Steelers missed on two draft picks? Who cares? Every team misses on picks and picking out two guys that didn’t work out over the last 10 years isn’t that hard to do. Are Patriots fans furious at Belichick for missing on Maroney and Chad Jackson among others? Probably not because the Pats are a threat to go all the way every year! It’s very hard to be mad at Pittsburgh’s drafts when their record has been pretty freaking good for the last almost 20 years. If I recall though, in this case Alonzo Jackson was more of a Cowher pick. He loved him. And I think that the same was for Tomlin and Davis.

        I know, Colbert has final say and all that.

  • steeler junky

    Interesting perspective, and agree some what on the 4th round draft pick senario . But we all no 4th round picks are hit and miss. Because when football becomes a job not all college player have the desire to put enough into succeeding .
    Also I will have to agree with Ryan’s post.

  • Cols714

    I disagree. That looks like a pretty good hit rate on 4th rounders. Sepulveda, Colon, Taylor, and Foote are pretty good players to draft in the 4th round.

    I also disagree with the whole premise that Colbert has been an average drafter after the 1st round. There is a reason the Steelers are constantly in the upper quarter of the NFL and that’s because they know how to bring in talent. For every 4th round miss, there’s an UDFA who becomes a pro bowler.

    Steelers fans want every one of their draft picks to become impact players. That’s just not going to happen. This year it looks like they did pretty well. Pouncey, Sanders, Worilds, Sylvestor, Brown have already made impacts and all look like they will progress. Yet here we are bitching and moaning because they had to cut a 4th rounder because of a roster crunch.

    • Ted

      Cols, where did you read that Colbert was an average drafter in the first round? Instead, he rivals Ozzie Newsome as the best drafter in the first round, something I clearly praised him for in the article.

  • http://www.steelerslounge.com/ ryan

    Cols,LISTEN TO THE PODCAST! We briefly talked about Colbert’s first-round draft success rate. In my mind, the only incomplete is Ziggy Hood and that’s because he hasn’t played much. Every other plays has been good/great. (And before anybody says, “UM, KENDALL SIMMONS!?” I’d remind you that Simmons was a solid starter before adult-onset diabetes and a blown-out knee killed his career.

    • Cols714

      My comment said “average after the 1st round”. I think he’s been great in the 1st round and pretty good after it as well. His only 1st round miss that I can think of is Troy Edwards. The rest of them have been good, although the jury is still out on Ziggy Hood.

      And yeah Kendall Simmons wasn’t a terrible pick, he just had some terrible luck.

      My point is that Colbert has done a great job drafting by the team, but according to the message boards he stinks after the 1st round. Which is totally unfair.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UR6KXGPFIFYZSVJNCXCJNHDQJQ Bob Costas

        Troy Edwards was a Donahue pick.

      • Ted

        My bad, Cols, I mis-read your comments in thinking that you had mis-read what I had wrote. Edwards was picked the year before Colbert directed our drafts. But I will disagree on Simmons. If you take an offensive guard in the first round, then that guy should turn into a Pro Bowl player. Instead, Simmons was an average/above average player for a year or 1.5 years, but otherwise was one of the worst starting OGs in the NFL. Yes, he has bad luck but that was the one bad first-round pick by Colbert. Still, 9 of 10 in the first round is pretty darn good.

  • Gretz

    I still think we have to know what the success rate of a fourth-round pick is league-wide. Colbert’s batting about 37% in that round. Is that average? Above average? Below average?

  • Steeler Stan

    I agree with most of that except the part about Sepulveda being average. I think he’s been above average in each of the years he’s played. His net totals are more a function of the Steelers’ sometimes awful special teams rather than his own abilities. He’s actually the best punter the Steelers have had in my 40 year lifespan.

    I also wonder why Tony Hills is more valuable to the team than Thaddeus Gibson. I really think Gibson’s loss is going to burn us in a few years. That guy was a slow starter at Ohio State but turned into a great player.

  • Cols714

    I realize I’m coming across as a defender of Colbert and the Steelers here. And I am. The team has done very well over the years, but listening to fans after every loss bitch and moan about how the end is near and Colbert can’t draft after the 1st round gets extremely old.

    Can they do better? Absolutely, especially when it comes to drafting OL. Essex, Urbick, Hills, are all missed picks where one hit would’ve done wonders for the team. Can Arians do better? Definitely, he has his blind spots and if the Steelers underperform this year, I bet we see a change.

    And yes, missing on draft picks like Jackson and Davis matters, but not all that much. If you are “furious” over those missed picks, then you have to give the man credit and be ecstatic when he hits on guys like Foote, Taylor, Sanders, Wallace, Sepulveda, Sylvester, Parker, Keisel, Harrison, Woodley, Redman, Spaeth, Colon, Starks, Kemo, McFadden, Gay…

    • steeler junky

      Harrison and Redman were FA when they joined the team.

  • Cols714

    Shit, I just listened to the podcast, I think you guys basically agree with me.

  • GlennW

    The debate over Gibson aside, likewise I do not understand the comment of “but in the fourth-round, I’d rather have any reader of this blog draft for the Steelers in that one round based on Colbert’s history”. Huh? Ted, you go on to grade out the 4th round with three A’s and one B over the past decade in Foote, Taylor, Colon and Sepulveda. That’s 4 out of 11 hits in the 4th round– hits who are/were starters, not role players– which has to be well above the curve.

  • Marv

    So, it was a bad pick because they lost him on waivers due to forced roster issues? This makes no sense. What if Worilds had been a bust and/or the elder backers come down with a case of injuries? You pick the best player available, regardless of your needs sometimes and you may not always see that value in him playing for you. There is a price to pay for insurance, to have chips to trade, to foster competition for spots, etc.

  • Yankeeslim

    Four out of the eleven players mentioned here have been starters. That’s not brilliant, but really quite reasonable for the 4th round, and usually the back end of it at that.

  • guest

    What the heck are you talking about with Sepulveda only ranking 18th among NFL punters? Sepulveda’s 46.9 Average is 5th in the NFL and his net average of 40.5 is tied for 4th best. I have no idea where you got 18th from. Also, while Sepulveda was merely average last year, in 2007 his net average ranked 11th among all NFL punters, clearly above average. It seems to me, that to this point in his career, Sepulveda HAS been above average, just not WELL above average. However, this year, Sepulveda has to be one of the top 2 condidates (with Oakland’s Lechler) for the Pro Bowl punter slot for the AFC.

    • Ted

      Per ESPN’s rankings, Sepulveda is ranked 18th among all punters this year: http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/punting/sort/puntYards

      • http://www.steelerslounge.com/ ryan

        That 18th ranking is for total yards. As mentioned above, in terms of average punt, he’s 5th, and tied for 4th in net. His ratio of punts inside the 20 per touchbacks could be better, but all in all this has been one of his best professional seasons.

        • Ted

          Agree, Ryan, which is why I said he was mediocre at best in 07 and 09, but is having by far his best year in 2010. Still, per Elias Sports Bureau, he ranks 18th among punters in the NFL this year after ranking 18th last year and 20th in 2007.

          Considering the NFL has 32 teams, I would say that makes him an average punter even though he is one of only 10 punters to be selected in the first four rounds of the NFL Draft over the last 20 years. I do not know any Steeler fans who were not optimistic that Robo Punter would be better than he has been thus far. That said, he is still young and has time to improve.

          • guest

            And where is this ELIAS sports bureau ranking showing him 18th? The link you posted showing him ranked 18th was SORTED BY TOTAL YARDAGE. It is NOT an “overall” punting ranking., Even a 6-year old could see that list was sorted by yardage.

            First you complain about Colbert’s 4th round draft picks when his track record there is better than 90% of NFL teams. Now this. This blog has 3 good, intelligent writers (Ryan, Adam and JJ). And then there is you who doesn’t appear to know anything about anything. You’re doing a good job of trying to destroy the credibiliy of this site.

          • Ted

            Okay, you win. I am done commenting on this article. Sepulveda will undoubtedly become the first pure punter selected to the HOF and Colbert is fantastic in the fourth round, evident by 5 of his last 7 picks in that round playing a combined two games for the Steelers over their careers before being cut with only Tony HIlls among those five still on the Pittsburgh roster. You guys are right. I was wrong. That is great drafting.

          • Guest

            Ted, you are acting like an infant after being called out on using statistics to prove a point that you failed to analyze correctly. The link that you provide, as pointed out multiple times to you, is not a link to a magical formula that tells you definitively who the best punter in all the land is, but in fact is merely an assortment of statistics, the default viewing of which is simply the total amount of yards a football has traveled off of a punter’s foot. Obviously a punter who punts a football more will have had that football travel a greater distance. The fact that Sepulveda is ranked 18th in total yards is an indication that the Steelers don’t punt very often, not that Sepulveda isn’t very good. He ranks tied for 19th in total punts, by the way. He doesn’t punt very often. That must mean the Steelers don’t have faith in him, right? The fact that he is 5th in average yards per punt and net yards per punt is a better indication of his abilities. His areas of weakness are his control. His touchback ratio should be better, and he outkicks the coverage on occasion, resulting in having the 11th highest return yardage per punt in the league. But over a third of his punts are fair caught as well, which is good.

            Now, I say this because I find your reaction disappointing. I come to this site because it provides insights that others don’t. But here I find you behaving childishly because you refuse to acknowledge that you made an error in one of your articles. Instead of acknowledging your mistake, you go on a sarcastic tirade using non sequiturs in a poor attempt to save face, as though the fact that Tony Hills was a bad draft pick also makes Sepulveda a bad draft pick, or the fact that he’s not going to be voted to be in the Hall of Fame makes him less than he actually is. Your response shows that you are unwilling to be corrected, and when you are, you throw a tantrum and throw out strawmen and hyperbole until you feel as though you are no longer wrong. I expect better from this site, but maybe I shouldn’t. Or maybe I should just stop reading the comments section and stick with the articles. But then again if I didn’t read the comments I wouldn’t have realized that you screwed up in your article by citing a phantom Elias Sports Bureau Magical Punting Formula that is based on total punting yards that proves that Daniel Sepulveda is the 18th best punter in the league and is therefore a crappy draft pick.

          • Tjohnh1965

            What are you, like 6 years old? Actually, as was pointed out, even a 6-year old could see that the link you posted had punters ranked by TOTAL YARDAGE. At least 3 different people pointed this out to you – including Ryan – but you’re still too stupid to see that? When called to come up with this super-secret uber-complicated Elias punting formula, you poiint back to a list sorted by TOTAL YARDAGE. As others pointed out to you – there is no Elias punting formula. If that list was supposed to represent some “complicated” formula, then it is the most shitty (and least complicated “complicated”) formula in sports statistics because it results in a ranking which 100% exactly corresponds to ranking punters by total yards.

            Ryan – if you read this, you need to seriously consider driopping this guy from the lineup of writers. You truly do jeopardize the credibility of your site by employing someone who is a) too stupid to see something so obvious (punting rankings by total yardage) b) tries to cover up his stupidity by making shit up (there’s some secret punting formula used to rank punters) and c) after being shown to be wrong repeatedly by MANY people, still refuses to admit he was wrong.

      • guest

        Sorry, but it’s hard to take anything you say seriously when you post someone’s supposed statistical ranking without , you know, actually looking at the statistics. Good God, How could anyone look at that list and NOT immediately notice that the 5 guys listed directly above Sepulveda have lower averages in BOTH categories?

        • Ted

          LOL, that someone is the Elias Sports Bureau, which is the most respected sports statistical agency in the world and has been for a long time. They are using a formula that takes into account a variety of statistical categories. Yes, you are correct in that Sepulveda ranks higher based on just punting average and net average. But he is hurt in these rankings due to several areas. For example, he ranks 23rd in punts downed inside the 20. That is not impressive.

          Sport statistics have come a long way since we just looked at basics like punting average or net punting. Thus, a punter like Sepulveda who booms kicks from midfield into the end zone but lacks the touch to regularly pin opponents’ deep in their own territory is not rewarded for his inaccuracy.

          • guest

            Bullshit. You posted a link to ESPN rankings which are ordered by yardage. If Elias shows a him ranked 18th, where is the link?

          • Ted

            No reason to get upset. I did not purposely pick an obscure stat line to discredit Sepulveda. If you go to ESPN and search punting statistics, this is what comes up. Please read the link again. They are not ranked by yardage. Instead, they are ranked by the formula used by Elias and the bottom of the link credits Elias Sports Bureau.

            However, if you want to go with punting average, then, yes, you are correct in that Daniel is higher than 18th.

            The Elias punting formula is complicated, sort of like QB rating. I deal with statistics on a daily basis, but I realize others are less apt in this area. If you went with yards passing, Vinny Testaverde and Drew Bledsoe would be Hall of Famers. But the QB rating, multi-prong stat formula is why Steve Young is in the HOF, and those two never will be.

            I like Daniel, which is why I gave him a grade of B- even though he has never ranked among the top half of the league’s punters per ESPN stats. I would rather him rank lower in punting yard average and even net average if he was better at pinning opponents inside the 20. Fortunately, he is getting better and can improve on that to add to his tremendous leg strength. But thus far, he has been an average NFL punter. Thanks for your comments.

          • What Again?

            What are you talking about? There is no Elias Punting formula, at least not that is used by ESPN. They’re simply using standard stats, and he’s in the top-five in punting average and net punting average. This cannot be debated, and you’ve yet to provide any factual data to counter that, just some mythical Elias Sports Ranking that is apparently far too complex for us simpletons to understand. For somebody that deals with statistics on a daily basis you’re demonstrating much knowledge in that field, whether it be with this post or your performance in the comments.

          • What?

            The punts he “booms out of the end zone from midfield” would be reflected in his net punting average. Which is fifth best in the NFL. You’re making shit up because you’re obviously beaten. You strike me as the type that likes to complain just for the sake of complaining.

          • Ted

            I am not in a competition with an unnamed person on a blog. LOL. All I did was link the stats on ESPN for punting statistics and honestly never thought it would end up in a controversey: http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/punting/sort/puntYards

            Check it out. If you want to believe the Elias Sports Bureau makes stuff up, then that is your choice. But they are the service that provides punting stats for ESPN and are the most used sport stats service in the world and have been since I started following sports. I am sorry that I offended the Sepulveda family or fanclub with this blog by merely pointing out where he was ranked in current punting stats by the no-name outfit known as ESPN.

          • What Again?

            Are you serious? It’s a sortable stat table that can be ranked in a variety of ways. You’re looking at the total yards ranking and thinking it’s something that it’s not. Don’t you find it odd that this mythical “punter rating” just so happens to rank punters by THEIR YARDAGE?!? I agree with the other guy. Leave the posting to the other three guys on the site.

          • former fan of this site

            Amazing. If the idiot looked at the URL he posted ( http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/punting/sort/puntYards), he would have noticed that the end is sort/puntYards. Gee, could that be a clue that it is sorted by punting yards? Nothing is more maddening than a moron who refuses toi admit he was wrong even after it has been proven to him, time and time again. Sad to say, but I will not be frequenting this site very often as long as this imbecile is allowed to write front page articles. I seriously don’t understand how/shy Ryand and the others would cheapen their own hard earned credibility by giving a front page forum to someone as dumb as a box of rocks.

  • Grazy2

    why did they possibly not cut dwyer? He would have went no where on the practice squad, unclaimed through waivers. Of course Gibson got placed on the 49ers 53. POOR DRAFTING. again. where is Chris Scott our 5th round pick? 2 Outside linebacker/defensive ends in the first four rounds…not one of our young cornerbacks have stepped in AT ALL. Colbert cannot draft past the first round successfully period. I would’ve cut keyaron fox and let him develop on st’s. Everyone that is upset with that statement needs to remember fox and gay repeatedly missing tackles resulting in special teams touchdowns against us last year.