Getting Together: Steelers Bloggers Talk the Ravens’ Game

The Steelers’ blogosphere produces enough quality info that it’s sometimes hard to keep up. And here at the Lounge, we love that. The Steelers’ blogger community is a pretty talented bunch, which we were reminded of this week when Cory from the Three Rivers Burgh Blog arranged a roundtable discussion. Cory was nice enough to invite us at the Lounge to comment as well as Ian from The Steelers N’At, Cotter from One For The Other Thumb and Bam Morris from Blitzburgh Blog all gave out opinions on this weekend’s game.

Mainly it was a reminder to me about how my stuff is not as insightful or entertaining as some of the other Steelers’ bloggers out there, but hey, it gives me reasons to try to step up my game.

Here’s the roundtable.


Ian: Take advantage of their opportunities. In the first game against the Ravens we had 2 turnovers that we failed to get points from. Those 2 missed field goals were the difference in the game. The Steelers need to get 7s on the board rather than settling for 3. On the flip side, we have had success getting to Flacco in the past, but we can’t just sit back with 7 or 8 in coverage. We’re going to have to blitz him.

Me: Create some big plays on both sides of the ball. You’re not going to put together seven minute drives against Balitmore like Pittsburgh did against the Bills. But if Mike Wallace can get open deep, or Troy Polamalu can make an big interception, it has just as much impact as first down after first down after first down.

Bam: Hmmm. Pressure Joe Flacco. He’s no Tom Brady, but he can make plays if you let him and a couple big throws could be enough to tilt the balance of the game towards Baltimore. Staying healthy and playing smart are also big. It seems like it has been weeks since the Steelers have gone through a game without injury after injury to both the offensive and defensive lines. And obviously Pittsburgh has to do something about the penalties. No way they can beat a good team like the Ravens giving up 100+ yards in penalties.

Cory: The Steelers really just have to make no mistakes. With Ben banged up and the offensive line “below the line” as Mike Tomlin might say it is imperative that the Steelers really minimize their mistakes. One special teams blunder or a pick six really could be the difference in the game. I really think what is most important is that the Steelers need to realize that punting is ok. Last week against a Bills team the Steelers could take some chances and get away with them, not the same with this Ravens team. Play the field possession game when you have to and let your defense be great. Now, by this I am not saying to not take chances, because you need to exploit that Ravens secondary with Mike Wallace and Hines Ward, but sometimes punting isn’t the worst thing.

Cotter: Put more points on the board than the Ravens. What, not the answer you were looking for? How about – play 60 minutes of solid defense. I mean, that’s pretty much a recipe for success every week, but I think this time around, sackS (like, as in, more than one) would be nice (really, any pressure), and if we could get a couple more takeaways like we did last time, that would be amazing. Without pressure, I don’t know if the Steelers corners right now – with McFadden ailing and with Willie Gay, Keenan Lewis and Anthony Madison behind him – can really cover Anquan Boldin/Derrick Mason/Douchemandzadeh for all that long before something breaks. So, getting to Flacco quickly is going to be important. Michael Oher being hurt should help, and remember, even though Marhsal Yanda more or less silenced LaMarr Woodley last time, he’s still the backup RT. Either way, both teams are going to be fired up, and we know it’s going to be a physical game, so what’s going to make the difference may just be which team can outsmart the other. As far as offense goes, I think we keep Mendenhall involved, but also be aggressive and try to create some big plays. Big Ben being back should **hopefully** help with that. Also, punching Ed Reed in the dick before kickoff couldn’t hurt. I nominate Hines Ward for the job.


Ian: Easily, Haloti Ngata. No one on our offensive line, even Pouncey, can block him. We have had zero success running in his direction over the years, but we still do it. The Ravens move him around on their defensive line, and he’s a guy that we will need to identify where he is (and preferably run a play in the other direction).

Me: Boldin and Rice are good, but the guy who will give me nightmares is Haloti Ngata. Kyle Williams is a very good defensive tackle, and he just turned Chris Kemoeatu into a chew toy. Ngata is bigger, faster and stronger than Williams. If Pittsburgh’s offensive line picked up 7 penalties last week against a solid Bills’ line, how many will they pick up this week against Ngata and the Ravens?

Bam: There are quite a few. Ngata, Reed, Heap, Rice. All those guys have had some success against the Steelers in recent years. But the two guys I’m always the most worried about are Derrick Mason and Ray Lewis: the ageless ones. I think it was two or three seasons ago when I wrote on the blog that both should be starting to slow down. Yeah, that didn’t happen. People can hate Lewis and make fun of him, but he is the best middle linebacker I have ever seen play the game of football.

Cory: As much as I hate the dude, Ray Lewis still scares me the worst. Even though he has maybe lost a step from his best years he is still a dynamic football player. Even though he may night make as many plays as he used to all it takes is one bit play from Ray and that defense seems to just take it to another level. I guess the other guy that is so underrated but might be the best defensive player on that team is Ngata. JJ talked about it too, but this dude is a force at stopping the run and with our up and down line it will be interesting to watch.

Cotter: Off the field, Ray Lewis. And it’s not because of the stabbing so much as it is the Old Spice commercials. On the field, Ngata x 1000. Particularly this season with the weekly changing of the guard (and tackles…/rimshot) up front, a guy that can dominate linemen like Ngata is one of the scariest things I can imagine. Plus, it just makes it that much easier for the rest of the Ravens pass rush to get to Big Ben. I’m hopeful that the Steelers can minimize the damage he inflicts, but just in case, we should probably equip Maurkice Pouncey, and Chris Kemoeatu with razorblades. Just kidding, Goddell (smiley with teeth).


Ian: Heath Miller. He hasn’t had a breakout game yet this year because he has drawn more blocking assignments. However, if the Ravens take a page out of the Saints/Bengals/Patriots book, they will be bringing pressure up the middle, leaving the middle of the field open for Heath to roam free.

Me: LaMarr Woodley. He’s been pretty quiet lately, but he’s torched the Ravens in past games. James Harrison will have a big game, he always does. But if Pittsburgh is going to win, Woodley needs to have one too.

Bam: The offensive line. All of them. If Ben has some time to make plays, I like our chances. Unfortunately, I don’t see that happening against a great and aggressive defensive front for Baltimore.

Cory: Ben Roethlisberger. All the dude does is win, especially against the Ravens. He is 7-2 all time against Baltimore (including playoffs) and is 5-0 in his last five against them. The Ravens have won three of the last eight meetings, Ben played in none of them. Obviously Ben is hurting a bit from his foot which will hurt him getting out of the pocket, but Ben is good is big games and this is as big of a game as it gets. I can’t remember the last time there was this kind of feel in a regular season game, but I expect a big night from the big one they call Ben. If the Steelers can get the running game going even a little bit Ben will kill the Ravens with play action.

Cotter: If it’s going to be anyone, I hope it’s Ben. The last time we played the Ravens, Chuck Batch only completed 12 passes for 141 yards, and the Ravens still needed a touchdown in the final minute to win by 3 (and really, the Steelers could’ve won if Jeff Reed was Shaun Suisham…that was painful to type). I really hate to sound overly confident, but Ben completes 12 passes hanging upside down, blindfolded, drinking a juice box. My concern for this game is really whether the defense can get to Joe Flacco (in case you didn’t get that from question 1, haha).


Ian: James Harrison and LaMarr Woodley vs Anyone on the Ravens O-line. The Blind Side was jumping early a LOT last game to try to get an edge on these guys. Either way, Harrison and Woodley are our best bets to shut down the Ravens offense.

Me: The Ravens secondary. You have to figure out how to keep Ed Reed away from the ball, but there are some cornerbacks in that secondary who can be beaten.

Bam: Baltimore’s secondary aside from Ed Reed is very mediocre. Big Ben can carve these guys up if he gets the chance.

Cory: Gonna be hard to really exploit anything in this game. The game is going to be really tight and every play could determine who wins and who takes the loss. I think we can take advantage of the Baltimore secondary if we have the chance. There is nobody in this league that can run with Mike Wallace. The key is going to be giving Ben time, but if he has some time I really think we can get things going with Hines underneath and Mike downtown. I have to also agree with Ian with the outside duo. Oher was jumping really bad last game and he is hurt this time around so he might need some help to stop James.

Cotter: Fabian Washington/Ladarius Webb on anyone. Advantage: anyone.


Ian: The AFC North division title is essentially at stake. A Baltimore win would essentially put us 2 games back in the division race. Plus, who wants to get swept by those D-bags?

Me: Can either team run the ball? Both teams love to stuff the run, and both teams love to run. We’ll see who can actually move the ball on the ground.

Bam: I think injuries on both sides are being lost a little bit in the Steelers/Ravens hype. Both Roethlisberger and Troy Polamalu are going to be at least a bit limited in practice this week. Bryant McFadden being banged up could  be a big deal too. The Ravens are obviously aware of this thing and I’d be expecting to see a lot of shots towards Roethlisberger’s foot.

Cory: I think in terms of the game it is how the Ravens are going to play the Steelers pressure. Last game the Ravens were in max protect mode and was always keeping one more player in to block than the Steelers have rushers coming. That obviously gave Flacco time to find receivers and pick what he wanted to do. If the Steelers can get to Flacco they will have success but if the Ravens do what they did last game Dick LeBeau will have to get creative. I think field goal kicking also is going to be huge, which I will talk about in the final question.

Cotter: I hate to say it, but can this team beat a contender during the stretch run? We haven’t beaten a team with a record over .500 since Miami six (?) or so weeks ago. I’m not saying we can’t or won’t, but when you look at the last five games, they beat the Bills, Raiders, and Bengals, and lost to both the Saints and Patriots. If this team has playoff hopes, it’s going to have to be able to do what it has been doing against the Buffalos/Oaklands/Cincys – playing through adversity and making enough big plays – against the Ravens/Jets, etc. But I think starting with the Ravens on Sunday, the Steelers are ready to show how legit they are this year.


Ian: As has been true with most Steelers-Ravens games over the past few years, the last team to get the ball will win. We like Big Ben against the Ravens D in clutch time. Steelers 23-20.

Me: Ravens 21, Steelers 17. I unfortunately think that the Steelers’ offensive line is going to find itself overmatched. I hope I’m wrong.

Bam: I have a ton of respect for the Ravens. They play football the way it was meant to be played and they are the one other team in the NFL who is capable of physically beating the Steelers up on a good night. Baltimore’s physicality always brings out the best in Pittsburgh, but I think the Steelers offensive line is just a little too banged up to be able to handle Baltimore’s front 7 well enough for Pittsburgh to win. Neither team should be able to run much, but Flacco will have the time to make a few more plays throw the air and that will be the difference. Ravens 20 Steelers 13

Cory: These games are always tight. Outside of the occasional win by 7+ these games come down to field goals. I ended by “underlying story” question by saying that these are usual scoring is around three points so field goal kicking is going to probably win this game. Last week Shaun Suisham hit 4-of-4 from 40+ and I think he is going to need to be that good this game. Steelers 20, Ravens 17.

Cotter: Oh man, um, I’m gonna go…Steelers – 27, Ravens 17. I don’t want the Ravens to score 17 points in any way, but I do think the Steelers can score 27. That said, I’ll take Steelers – 3, Ravens 0 and/or Steelers – 12, Ravens – 6, and/or any other asinine final score as long as it’s the Steelers winning. Also, Refs: 12, James Harrison: -$50K.

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  • Mike L

    Any WR on B-mac or Gay. B-mac blew the coverage on the last two plays. Why you say? One the first play he had safety help over top yet he drifted back so far he gave an easy outside pattern to allow Balt to stop the clock. Then with Woodley underneath in zone and no safety help over top he bits on the out for an easy TD. These were two easy reads for any QB including Flacco.

  • steelerjunky

    One of two things need to happen for the Steelers to win.
    One you have already touched on pressure Flacco. He has had a lot of good games lately, because of the protection he has been getting.
    2- OR The Steelers DBs need to have a super game by whatever means. Confusing /baiting Flacco and or passes defensed.

  • Bnsane

    For the Steelers to win Roethlisberger must be able to get outside the pocket. If he can’t run around because of his foot the Steelers have no chance. The offensive line can’t stop the Ravens front seven.

  • ryan

    Just saw the Flacco-to-Houshyomomma TD pass-and-catch broken down on NFL Matchup with Jaws and Hoge. We all know that B-Mac got beat in coverage, but because the Steelers were blitzing — and because Housh ran an out and up — B-Mac actually was right to jump the “out” part of the route.

    He thought the blitzing Polamalu would get to Flacco and he jumped the route. The Ravens went max-protect, Heap picked up Troy, and Housh beat B-Mac to the inside because Flacco had time to throw.

    Not making excuses, it was just interesting to see exactly what happened on both the front and backend of the play.

    • Mike L

      When Troy presents the toughest challenge in the secondary why blitz him especially on the opposite side of the field? There was no safety help for Bmac although he had Woodley underneath. I don’t know what Matchup said but reads do not get any easier than this. Flacco would have to have lofted the ball over Woodley giving Bmac time to get there he did no have to “jump the route”. Oh look Troy blitzes on 3rd and 15 and bmac burned again.

  • Mcowdery

    “…Also, Refs: 12, James Harrison: -$50K.” I lol’d so hard at that. I could just imagine the refs scoring a touchdown or trying to give themselves 12 points.

  • Tim

    Go Mike Wallace. It is time to step up and have a big game. No mistakes Oline. Take advantage of theirs. Go Big Ben. step up and be a leader. No mistakes. If we can do that itll be Steelers 20 and Ravens 17. Thats what it would have been if Reed didnt suck

  • Bobbie Tamburlin

    I am really disappointed with NFL and the two plays that happened in the Steeler/Raven game one on Ben and now the helmet to helmet on Heath Miller. The NFL needs to WAKE UP!!!! The rules need to be distributed evenly not just the Steelers and Harrison.