Chattin’ Thread for the Week of Oct. 24

Posted on October 23, 2011 by ryan

The Steelers are 5-2 and the Pats are comin’ to town…

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  • Anonymous

    That’s a good way to start. Clark picks off the deflection.

  • Anonymous

    Heath was about as wide open as you can get for that TD

  • Anonymous

    Troy just dropped an interception thrown right to him.

  • Anonymous

    Pretty stupid penalty by Kemo.

    • Anonymous

      And a familiar one too. Has no one ever told him he’s not supposed to jump on a pile three seconds after the play has ended? What’s he trying to do anyway? His own teammate is under there too.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UR6KXGPFIFYZSVJNCXCJNHDQJQ Bob Costas

        I don’t know what you’re talking about.  Ray Lewis is famous because he jumped on piles after the play was over. 

        • Anonymous

          Maybe, but at least Lewis brings a knife with him.

  • Anonymous

    Starting to get a little nervous. The Cards don’t look that bad, and the Steelers haven’t really taken control.

  • Anonymous

    Steelers are also losing the field position battle. This is the 2nd or 3rd drive that they have started deep in their own end.

    Well, that works. 90+ yard bomb to Wallace for the TD!

  • Anonymous

    Wallace’s 95 yard TD is the longest in Steelers’ history, breaking the record of 90 yards(Bradshaw/Malone and Stewart/Shaw)

  • Anonymous

    Don’t see Ike mess up a tackle like that too often.

  • Anonymous

    Ike has now been flagged for DPI and illegal contact.

  • Anonymous

    Ike with the hat trick: defensive holding

    • ErikH

      Where was the offensive holding on that play?

    • Anonymous

      They are pretty silly too. The officials called fouls in the secondary in both directions that just weren’t fouls.

  • Anonymous

    This would be a good time for a James Harrison, Super Bowl 42 redux….

  • Anonymous

    Ben probably should have just kept that one.

  • Anonymous

    If Ben and Brown/Sanders ever get on the same page consistently, defending the Steelers’ pass offense is going to be a nightmare.

  • Anonymous

    This game is turning into a penalty fest.

  • Anonymous

    Not thrilled with that sequence. 2nd and 1 spike, 3rd and 1 draw to Moore that goes nowhere, settle for a FG. Fortunately, Suisham’s kick was good.

    • Anonymous

      I rarely like a spike on second down.

  • Anonymous

    If the Steelers can open the second half with a TD, I’d say the game is most likely over. If they go 3 and out, it’s probably going to be a repeat of last week. The scary thing is, Fitzgerald is light-year’s better than any of Jacksonville’s receivers…

  • Anonymous

    In case Steelers fans had forgotten how bad Kyle Boller is: 7 of 14, 61 yards, 3 interceptions(1 returned for a TD) against Kansas City.

  • Anonymous

    Uh….running into the punter, refs? Where’s the flag?

  • Anonymous

    I’m sorry, but Sepulveda got completely taken out on that last punt, and the announcers haven’t even mentioned it.

    • Anonymous

      I saw that too. In order my three questions were “WTF was that runner thinking, he wasn’t even close to getting there i time for a block?” “WTF were the officials watching when that happened?” and “Did the announcers miss it too?” My only explanation for the latter two is that the hit came so long after the kick that everyone’s eyes were already downfield.

  • Anonymous

    Not even a hold can stop Woodley on that sack.

  • Anonymous

    Well that sucked. 2nd and 18 turns into a 73 yard TD.

  • Anonymous

    Great catch by Brown to convert a 3rd down. One-handed snag and slowed down enough to get both feet down in bounds.

  • Anonymous

    It would be nice to see Redman in here rather than Mendenhall…

  • Anonymous

    TD, Sanders!

  • Anonymous

    Heh, Ben just froze an unblocked Haggans on that pass.

  • Anonymous

    Lamar Woodley!!!!!!!! Intentional grounding in the endzone for a safety!

  • Anonymous

    Alright, put this game away guys.

  • Anonymous

    By the way, I never noticed this before, but Larry Fitzgerald whines a lot. Looks for a flag on every single play, and complained about the intentional grounding.

    • Anonymous

      He’s very demonstrative, true. But I’m not sure it’s whining. To me a player whines when he complains after the fact that a call hasn’t gone his way. Larry Fitzgerald pleads his case right or wrong, but seems to drop it and get back into the game.

  • Anonymous

    Gah. Ben got away with a bad pass that could have been picked.

    • Anonymous

      I assume we’re talking about the one late in the game fairly deep in his own end of the field where he threw long into good coverage after a scramble. That was the lone genuinely bad decision I saw from him all day.

  • Anonymous

    One concerning thing from this game: Arizona is awful against the run, and the Steelers have been completely unable to get anything on the ground.

  • Anonymous

    If that’s Brady, it’s probably roughing the passer.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L4ZET7H7KOG7RWYUF4NIAZYEMM Robert

      Funniest part is hearing people complain and whine…..about Brady’s whining.

  • Anonymous

    Carson Palmer didn’t want Boller to feel too bad, so he threw a pick-six, as well.

    Is Tebow the new Brett Favre, getting mentioned by announcers in every single game?

    • Anonymous

      Did you not watch the Denver-Miami game? Tebow was clearly just having fun out there.

  • Anonymous

    Anyone trust Suisham to make a 47-yarder?

    How about a 42-yarder, as the Cards go offsides?

  • Anonymous

    FG is good, but it’s still a 2-score lead.

  • Anonymous

    So I posted Boller’s stats earlier, so how about Carson Palmer’s?

    8 of 19, 116 yards, 3 picks(1 returned for a TD)

  • Anonymous

    Easy TD for Arizona there. Doucet was wide open. 2 point conversion is no good.

  • Anonymous

    Um, why not go for the onside kick? You’re down by 12, with just under 4:00 to go…

    • Anonymous

      Dumb decision making.

  • Anonymous

    Well, they were a little shaky at times, but all in all, a pretty good win(albeit over a bad team).

  • Joe Stitt

    That was about a half trap game. Ben officially owns Haggans. Fitz whines more than Brady. Seriously? What could he possibly have to say to the ref on that safety? Get real. We need to pound Redman next week and keep Brady off the field. As bad as the Cards D is, the Pats is worse. If Robin turned Batman shows up again with some more help from the Diesel, I like our chances. If not, it’s gonna be a long 3 hours.

    • Hoffstra323

      yea, all the glitz and glam of our passing game is great but we need to get this running game going if we our going to win a few of these tough games coming up. our offensive line is just not good enough for  rashard mendenhall to be successful right now, we need redman. i thought the ground game would be better against the cards. the passing game has been nice, but inconsistent as well. and i saw ben running for his life and getting off the turf way to many times this sunday. we need to come out and punch the patriots in the mouth. if they open up a decent lead on us early as they so often do you can forget it. 

  • Rob D

    Decent win against a pretty much awful team.

    Saints put up 62…!!..against an awful team.

    Welcome to the new NFL where 30pts just isn’t enough scoring.

  • David

    OK, I loved the V today. Wallace’s play was, well, vintage Wallace.

    But what’s up with Cook’s article today on the P-G saying shame on Horton, shame on Townsend?

    Here’s my point: there are 50-60 plays a game. Let’s say the DB and S covered Wallace well on each play, except a couple. That’s not too bad.

    Also, any good receiver like Wallace should shake free a couple of times, no matter if Revis, Deion Sanders, or Woodson are covering.

    So Cook, lay off Townsend and Horton.

  • Joe Stitt

    All I can say is LET’S GO JAGS!!!

  • Joe Stitt

    I feel bad about complaining about the Steelers offensive production this year, because that abomination the Ravens are trying to pass off as an offense is just flat out embarrassing.

    • Anonymous

      Particularly in Week 1… for the Steelers.

  • Joe Stitt

    And Flacco with his anti-clutch INT!!!!! Game 2 just got a heck of a lot more interesting.

    • David

      And the Raisins go DOWN!!!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UR6KXGPFIFYZSVJNCXCJNHDQJQ Bob Costas

      Didn’t see that coming.  Thanks Baltimore.

      • Joe Stitt

        Once we got to the fourth, I saw Joe Cool coming a mile away. This one was all on Harbaugh and the Offense. What a waste of a good defense.

  • Sunil Ramalingam

    I was going to say the Jags need to rush more than four guys. Then they get the pick.

  • Joe Stitt

    Temple U probably would have fielded a better offense than the Ravens tonight, but the Jags did play well. Did we throw too much dirt on the Steelers for their second half last week?

  • David

    Tell you how much I know about onside kicks:

    I thought Whis should’ve kicked one vs. us, but he didn’t

    I thought the Raisins shouldn’t have kicked one, but they did

    Am I missing something?

  • Joe Stitt

    I’d also be willing to trade two first round picks for Josh Scobee. I would kill to have a kicker like him.

  • Hoffstra323

    jerricho cotchery needs to be heard from, this man is too good of a receiver to not be on the field. he also puts up big games against the patriots. the steelers need to realize that and utilize him. 

    • Anonymous

      He has a lot of people in front of him on the depth chart, but if Ward’s injured, I’d expect to see Cotchery play. Also, everybody puts up big games against the patriots this season. I have a suspicion this game is going to come down to turnovers, and, frankly, the way the Steelers defense has been playing that doesn’t encourage me.

    • Cols714

      I agree that he’s good, but he has Wallace, Brown, and Sanders ahead of him on the depth chart. He’d make a good Hines Ward replacement though.

  • Joe Stitt

    Anyone worried about Hampton coming back this week? McClendon has been playing great, and I’d rather have the youth and speed up front. It’s been working.

  • Joe Stitt

    William Gay on Wes Welker. It’s gonna be a longgggg Sunday -_-

    • Anonymous

      I wouldn’t to surprised if Welker draws Ike Taylor. Welker isn’t fast, but he’s clearly the most dangerous player on the Patriots by a mile.

      • Joe Stitt

        I would. Tomlin flat out said he doesn’t wanna put Ike in that position. He usually doesn’t cover guys who play Welker’s position. He plays outside.

        • Anonymous

          How do you feel about Keenan Lewis on Chad Johnson?

          • Joe Stitt

            Have you seen Chad Johnson play this year? Chad Johnson is covering Chad Johnson. Lewis has been playing great, and Johnson has been total crap. So I feel great.

          • Anonymous

            Me too. Which makes the question become which is scarier Taylor on Welker, Gay on Branch or Taylor on Branch, Gay on Welker?

          • Joe Stitt

            I think Gay has a better shot at Branch, since he’ll probably get help from Troy or Clark with anything over the top.

          • Anonymous

            Yes, and that’s how I’d play it in the common case.

            Taylor on Welker
            Gay on Branch
            Lewis on Johnson
            Ryan Clark over the top, usually helping on Branch or Johnson
            Troy Polamalu roving but usually closer to the line to help on Welker, a tight end, or against the run
            Timmons playing at ILB and matched against Gronkowski

  • Cols714

    The problem with the Patriots is that they have the exact offense needed to beat the Steelers. And they can execute it. Not all teams run the perfect anti-Steelers offense, but the Patriots do and they do it very well.

    I hope we win, but I’m guessing we are screwed as usual vs the Pats. Next week we’ll get to read about how the “blueprint to beat the Steelers…” etc etc etc. Then we’ll go out and destroy the Ravens to get back into 1st place.

    • countertorque

      I don’t think anyone’s talking about how to beat the Steelers this season, because it doesn’t seem that hard.  I think if the Pats win, we just hear more about how great the Pats are, because it will be expected.

  • EasyLikeSundayMorning

    Rob Ryan’s defenses have done pretty well against the Pats in their last two meetings. Last year, his Browns D held the Pats to 14 while beating them. This year, his Cowboys D held them to 13 points for 59 minutes in their close loss. I wonder what LeBeau could take away from that.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UR6KXGPFIFYZSVJNCXCJNHDQJQ Bob Costas

      Stopping the Pats is all about press coverage.  They run an offense that is predicated on short, timing routes with Brady delivering the ball quickly and accurately.  So jamming their receivers at the line causes them a lot of problems.  That’s the kind of defense the Jets can run with Revis and Crommartie.  I’m assuming that is what Rob Ryan also did with his corners in Cleveland and Dallas.

      The problem, of course, is that the Steelers defense is a zone defense that is specifically designed to allow short completions.  LeBeau’s philosophy is that he will give up the short passes in order to stop the run and prevent big pass plays, with the idea being that teams won’t be able to consistently complete short passes on long drives.  That design has disrupted countless offenses for years.  The problem is that Brady is the rare quarterback that can consistently recognize the fire zone and quickly and accurately distribute the ball.  Hence why the Patriots offense has been dominating what are otherwise historically good Steelers defenses for the past decade.

      • Joe Stitt

        You’re exactly right. And that’s why it bothers me to no end when Steelers fans insist we need to blitz the hell out of Brady. It’s never worked for LeBeau and never will. Short, bump coverage that disrupts their timing is what stops the Patriots. If we get pressure from Ziggy because Brady holds onto the ball, then that’s great. But sending the house at Brady is asking for a 25 yard completion to one of his TEs. Most importantly, Keisel and Co. need to get their hands up on Sunday. Brady is getting balls tipped this year, and those are picks even our secondary can’t drop.

  • Mvelo

    For the first time ever, I’m not nearly as intrigued in the defensive match-up vs Brady, as I am in the offensive match-up of Ben vs N.E.’s D, or what they’re passing off as a D. I’m interested to see if Ben is capable of out-dueling one of the Elite QB’s in the league, and not having to rely on the D to help him out as much. We can learn a lot about our team from this game. If we can win this game in an atypical fashion, through Ben imposing the offense’s will on New England, I’ll feel 10 times better about our chances picking up number 7 this year. I’m really excited to see if Ben is ready to take this thing over.

  • Joe Stitt

    The key to victory on Sunday? Tomlin wearing a Steelers hoodie with cut off sleeves.

  • Joe Stitt

    Something completely ironic, the last time the Steelers beat Brady in 2004, it was Sunday October 31. Strange things can happen on a Halloween weekend…

    • David

      Yep, I was at that game. We were on a roll, they were on a big role of something like a 25 game regular season winning streak.

      But the keys to that game? We got to Brady early, forced two TO’s, and we ran the ball down their throats in the 4th.

      • Joe Stitt

        “This was the game that ended New England’s NFL-record 21-game winning streak. Following an Adam Vinatieri field goal in the first quarter, the Steelers erupted, as Ben Roethlisberger twice hit Plaxico Burress for touchdowns and a Tom Brady interception was run back by Deshea Townsend for a touchdown and a 21–3 Steelers lead after one quarter. Brady was picked off twice and Roethlisberger made no mistakes in throwing for 196 yards and amassing a quarterback rating of 126.4. The Steelers routed the Patriots 34–20 and wound up winning the No. 1 seed in the AFC playoffs as a result. With the win, the Steelers improved to 6–1.”
        That’s pretty much the only way you beat the Patriots. Replace Plax with Wallace, and Townsend with Ike, and we get the W.

  • Joe Stitt

    The Patriots cut Leigh Bodden today. Everyone else thought he was one of their better corners. Think the Steelers can get him off waivers before Sunday? lol

  • Joe Stitt

    In other very interesting news, when the Steelers line up in dime coverage, Keisel will line up at OLB and Timmons will move back inside. I like that. A lot.

  • Jbarlow02

    Let’s play coach for a second:

    If it were up to you, how would you match up against this offense?

    The more I look at it, the more I see a need to just define pre-snap matchups for each weapon and play it simple, man-to-man 2 deep and 1 deep.

    Timmons on Gronkowski, Taylor on Hernandez, Troy on Welker, Lewis on Branch, Gay on Ocho, and Clark and Mundy playing deep.

    The defensive front 4 would be DEWoodley, DTHood/Heyward/McClendon, DEKeisel, with Farrior and Foote being used super-sparingly as middle run-pass blitzers only.

    The X-factor I see is our DT rotation failing to generate push up the middle. Thoughts?