Bye Week Chattin’ Thread

We’re giving you the week off but be back first thing Monday morning…

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  • Bnsane

    Steelers need to make a statement TODAY!

  • Anonymous

    OK.  What if we lose?

    We can still win the division if Baltimore loses to SF and SD and splits with the Bengals.  And if the Bengals lose to Houston and one other game.  And the Steelers win out. 

    Not impossible, but not encouraging.

  • Rob D

    This is what it’s all about. Big game that helps to define a season. Cincy is playing very well, I’m impressed with their D in particular. The windy conditions should really turn this into a running attack type game. I like our chances overall.

    Should be a barn burner..Love 1:00 pm games..

  • Mike L

    Of the remaining games for Baltimore and Pittsburgh the most likely losses will come on the road.  Baltimore’s two losses so far have been on the road and Pittsburgh has 2 or their 3 losses on the road.  The biggest challenges for Pittsburgh are this week against Cinn (Dalton’s first meeting against Balt or Pitt’s defenses favors Pittsburgh chances of winning on the road), at KC (chances are better coming off a bye), and at SF (traveling to the west coast hurts most teams but since this is a Monday night game, it helps Pitt).  Baltimore has a tough home game against SF (Balt has a good run defense and SF traveling across the country and playing early favors Balt), at SD (a Sunday night game helps ofset traveling across the country) and finish at Cinn ( by this game Dalton will seen Baltimore and Pitt 3 times already and playing at home gives the best chance of a win.) 

    Baltimore could loss to Seattle, in fact both road losses have been games after emotional wins. I would imagine Balt still wins.  One situation that favors Pittsburgh is the SF game because by that time in the season they could have the #2 seed almost locked and rest borderline healthy players.

  • Cols714

    Nice three and out!

  • Cols714

    This is a must win game. A loss here seriously damages our playoff chances.

  • DoonYaY

    I see the refs came to play today too…  Up to their usual tricks.  

  • Erik H

    Offense better close this out.

  • David

    Great win today. My only complaint is no sacks.

    However, watching ours and other games, these PI calls are getting ridiculous. PI on Heath, a couple of PI’s on the Saints DBs, etc. Ridiculous.

    • Hoffstra323

      i cant agree more. calls like that ruin the game. Cotchery was wide open for a touchdown and the refs thought ” well that aint right” and throw the flag. More stupid calls that ruin the game. Love to see Cotchery coming on thou, he is a great addition. Look out for AB!

  • David

    Hmmm. Remember when I said the only way the Raisins lose is if they’re still drunk from their celebration? 10-0 Seahawks. No way the Raisins lose this game, though. (I’m hoping I just jinxed them)

    • Sarah

      David, you’re a magician…..please apply your skill to any Penguin opponent starting in, say, April….

      • David

        No problem. My jinx probably has to do with the fact that I lived in Baltimore for 5 years and the football Gods thought I was a Raisins fan.

        However, I’ll try my best on the Capitals this spring.

  • Cols714

    Hey that was a pretty wonderful win. Cincy has a good defense and it really looks like they hit on both Green and Dalton. Outstanding play calling and execution by Ben. If Wallace hangs on to that easy 3rd down pass and Miller doesn’t bobble the int away, they might have won by more.

    Great job, now into the bye at 7-3 with two games vs Cleveland, Cincy at home, and KC still on the schedule.

    • Anonymous

      … and the Rams.

  • Cols714

    Oh yeah and what a terrible personal foul call on Timmons on Cincy’s last TD drive. They are going to have to do something about the refs soon. They’ve been downright awful.

    • David

      I saw that. The same type of “late” hit was put on Ben, but no flag. Also, their safety will get fined for his H-to-H on Heath. Again, no flag, but it was on the 2 and we scored anyway.

  • Randy Steele

    I’m surprised: This is a good, young Bengal team. They’re going to be a problem for quite a while.

  • David

    Bam! And that’s you’re ball game! Raisins lose!

  • Cols714

    God the Ravens are annoying. They treat the Steelers win like a Super Bowl with a Gatorade bath and tackling your GM and all this crap. Then they go and suck it up. What a crap team.

    • David

      They lost to the 1-6 Jags, then to the 2-6 Seahawks. God I love it!

    • David

      Ya gotta love it, right Cols714?

  • EasyLikeSundayMorning

    We’re currently the #2 seed in the AFC… behind the Texans.

  • Rob D

    Excuse me whilst I dance a jig..avert your eyes..it won’t be Riverdance pretty..

    There. You can open them now.

    Can you get a better finish going into the bye week? We win against Cincy, Ravens lose.

    REst up Steelers. and well done

    • David

      Speaking of dancing, Bouchette’s reporting that Hines maybe isn’t happy that he’s been demoted on the depth chart. He played only a handful of snaps, and dressed quickly and wasn’t available for questions.

      • Joel Miller

        Understandable that he isn’t happy, but he is the 4th best receiver on the team and is a bit banged up.  For me…its become very obvious that you can shut down Hines Ward by playing man against him.  He is really a zone receiver at this point in his career.  He may be a bit more when he is 100%.

        • countertorque

          Getting old sucks for everyone.  A guy as competitive as Ward is not going to take it easily.

          • Rob D

            If we make it to the playoffs. someone has an appointment with Hines’s shoulder. He’ll contribute down the stretch and we know what his blocking means to this team A reduced role was expected but I am sure he’s not happy. Guy is a player..he’s done it all and I think deep down he has to be proud at the development of Sanders, Wallace and Brown ..all of whom owe Hines for their accelerated move to the top of the depth chart.

  • countertorque

    This is one of those rare weeks where I can be happy about a Seahawks win.  I have to make sure to mention it to my brother in law.  It’ll be a nice change from pretending to be sorry for him when his team loses.

  • Cols714

    The Ravens are now 0-2 coming off of regular season Super Bowl victories. I love it. 7-3 and 2-1 through the tough NE, Balt, Cincy stretch. Time to get healthy.

    As for Ward, tough. He knows he’s not as good as he used to be, it sucks, but they are doing the right thing. Cotchery looks good out there.

    • Sarah

      IS there a team with a better core of young receivers than Steelers?

      • Cols714

        Nope. Wallace is a top 10 receiver, Brown is getting there, and Sanders looked like he was going to be the long term #2 last year.

  • David

    What a difference a week makes!

    Next week, we get to watch the Beat Each Other Silly Game: Bungels at Raisins.

    Loser is in 2nd. Winner is tied with us for the AFCN lead with 6 games to go.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UR6KXGPFIFYZSVJNCXCJNHDQJQ Bob Costas

      Baltimore won’t be tied with us if they win.  They have the tiebreaker.

      We currently hold the tiebreaker with Cincy.

      So in other words, Go Bengals!

  • Hoffstra323

    I don’t even think its fair to rate the Steelers Receivers right now because we have so many play makers. There are a bunch of guys who can do a lot of things. I look for the steelers to move Hines around more for the rest of the year. Ben knows how to get the ball to Hines were only he can catch it, and he will still make some big plays. I think we have to understand that BA is a bit overwhelmed right now with all the possibilities he has on offense. He has to be like a kid in a candy store.
    Finally saw a big catch and run by Mendenhall. And did everyone see the awesome moves Weslye Saunders made after that catch at the end of the game. When you got nearly a dozen playmakers on offense you just have to figure out different packages for them all. I am sure that is what the Steelers will do with Ward because he is still an asset.

    • Sarah

      Agreed. HAving said all that I still want them to be able to slug it out in the mud and sleet in December. So I hope they don’t abandon the run entirely.

      • Hoffstra323

        I could not agree more. while I love what is going on in the passing game I still feel like the run is the bread and butter. The great passing attack that we have going on should open up the run game. I look to see more 3 TE sets as well. I think they will open up the run game even more by getting Saunders and Miller more involved in some big packages, and when teams see this they will think run. We are having more success running when we spread the offense and hand the ball off because the defense is thinking pass, however Mendenhall needs to do a better job of hitting the holes. He seems to be a bit indecisive. Also if you think about how Lebeau Coaches defense he always says “we will let you get some yards and move the ball but at some point the Offense will make a mistake” This scheme also applies to the Steelers, at some point we will make costly mistakes passing the ball and people will say we should have ran the ball more. Running the ball cuts down on turnovers and allows an offense to manage the game by controlling the clock. Time of possession is everything, especially for a Steelers team that does not give up many big plays.

  • Cols714

    Just want to point out that those WR quick bubble screens worked well all day yesterday.

    • Hoffstra323

      they did, I think they were bigger in this game than ever. I was waiting for that comment.

  • EasyLikeSundayMorning

    So much for the Texans being a threat for the 1 seed: Schaub is out for the year.

    • Rob D

      Holy crapola!
      Thats a shocker for me..

  • EasyLikeSundayMorning

    In more QB injury news, Cassel is out indefinitely, so LeBeau has two weeks to prepare for… wait for it… Tyler Palko.

  • David
  • Cols714

    Ben has a broken thumb. Eph

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UR6KXGPFIFYZSVJNCXCJNHDQJQ Bob Costas

      I hear he also has broken toes.

    • GlennW

      Why do I have the feeling that this won’t be a problem?  It wasn’t before (with his throwing thumb in 2005 when we won the Super Bowl, and countless other injuries since) and Ben says it won’t be again.  If this were some other teams, the precise nature of the injury wouldn’t even be revealed.

      • Hoffstra323

        It wont be a problem, if so we would have known about it sooner. From what I understand its on his throwing hand so if it was that bad he would not have finished the game.

  • Hoffstra323

    Big ups to Willie Gay, he had a huge game. Someone finally jumped a route and made a nice pick. Give him lots of credit for the Timmons interception as well, he was the guy who caused that to happen. While nothing big stands out about the guy you can not question his work ethic and the fact that he had a huge role in the Steelers biggest win of the season.
    Also props to Dick Lebeau for switching from man coverage into the zone. That is what enabled willie to sit on that route and read the quarterback. I said before when we beat the Patriots that we should not play man all the time and while the Steelers were in man for most of the day, it was a great call to go to the zone defense, especially against a rookie quarterback.

  • EasyLikeSundayMorning

    The ESPN Power Rankings have 5 AFC teams in the top 13: PIT (4), BAL (6), NE (8), HOU (9) and CIN (11).  We are 2-3 against those teams (and we’re 5-0 against the rest, including against 4 of the bottom 10).  It does seem like the quality of the conferences has shifted towards the NFC more than I can remember in recent years.

    In terms of our remaining schedule, we have: at KC (21), CIN (11), CLE (28), at SF (2), STL (30), at CLE (28).  If we go 1-1 in our games against teams in the top 20, we should win the rest of our games.  Losing to 28 or 30 at home seems, to quote Fezzig, inconceivable.  Losing to Tyler Thigpen, the new starter in KC, seems even worse.  That guy couldn’t even be a Brian St. Pierre impersonator.  And losing at CLE in week if it is a meaningful game, even if all of our starters were injured, seems incomprehensible.  In other words, 12-4 seems like a distinct possibility.  New England’s schedule is so easy, though, that 12-4 might give us the 2 seed (assuming the Ravens end up with 5 losses)

    • Anonymous

      I haven’t looked at the rankings, but I can’t imagine who’s ranked so highly in the NFC. Green Bay and San Francisco I’ll grant. Who’s number 3? I’d guess New York is the third best team in the NFC, but I’d say Pittsburgh, Baltimore, New England, Houston, and NYJ are all better. Cincinnati is close. 9 and 10? Maybe Chicago, NO, or Detroit none of them is as good as Cincinnati.

    • Anonymous

      You’re confusing Tyler Thigpen with the immortal Tyler Palko.

    • John S.

      And Fezzig with Vizinni

      • EasyLikeSundayMorning

        Which screw up is worse?  Andre the Giant and Wallace Shawn aren’t exactly identical twins.  I also called him Fezzig instead of Fezzik.  But Thigpen and Palko aren’t remotely equal, either.  Thigpen was once at least a semi-legitimate NFL starter, something Palko has never before been confused with.  Both mistakes are bad, so I will now remove two stars from my theoretical 1979 Pirates hat.

  • EasyLikeSundayMorning

    Nice to have a win before a bye to enjoy the two weeks in glass-half-full mode (or glass 7/10 full, as is more the case).  This seems like a good time to bring back a Question of the Day, which I think was started by Randy Steele back at HSS.  QOTD: What has surprised you most about the Steelers this year?    I’ll offer a few…

    At the beginning of the year, my big concern was that the OL and possibly the CBs would be so weak that they’d make it very difficult to have a run for another Lombardi.  Barring injuries to Starks and / or (maybe) Pouncey, I don’t have that concern now with the OL… it is downright average, or at least mediocre!  And that’s probably enough.  As for the CBs and DBs in general, you could argue that they have been the strongest part of the D (given all the LB injuries). 

    Related to the CBs, it is really amazing how much value the Steelers have gotten from rounds 3 and 4 in the last three drafts.  They picked Urbik, Wallace and Keenan Lewis in 2009, Manny Sanders and Thad Gibson in 2010 and Curtis Brown and Cortez Allen this year.  Lewis and Allen look to have futures as starting-caliber CBs (and Brown has the talent to be one).  The same can be said for Wallace and Sanders at WR.  Urbik is a starting G (for the Bills).  Only Gibson (sorry to poke an old wound, Ted) doesn’t seem to have a future as a solid starter.  That’s a surprisingly good haul for the mid rounds. 

    • Cols714

      My biggest surprise has been Keenan Lewis actually being good, Cortez Allen being good, and Antonio Brown being a stud

      My biggest bad surprise has been Lawrence Timmons who hasn’t been nearly as good as he was last year when I thought he had as good a year as Patrick Willis.

    • Rob D

      QOTD: The biggest surprise for me is the development of Antonio Brown into a monster playmaker. I still think Wallace is our best and most important WR, but AB has (a) great hands (b) great speed and quickness and most importantly (c) a demonic desire to be better every week (Tomlin thinks he’s the hardest worker on the team which is impressive when you realize his competition is Harrison, Polamalu, Ward and others noted for their work ethic.

  • Cols714

    I love the BS Report with Bill Simmons. Except for when Mike Lombardi is on. That guy sounds like he’s completely talking out of his ass. Plus he really loves the Patriots which is annoying. I don’t mind Simmons’ Patriots love, he’s been a fan forever and is usually pretty good on them. But Lombardi, yeesh.

    QOTD, what are your favorite football podcasts?

    BS Report, Dameshek, Shutdown Corner with Doug Farrar.

    • GlennW

      Lombardi is one of these “blows with the wind” type analysts.  After the fact, this is what happened here, this is what happened there– and oh by the way, I knew all of this all along.  I think he keeps a job because he’s able to sound somewhat detailed and intelligent amidst most of the other cackling idiots over at the NFLN.

      Does Cris Collinsworth have a podcast?  If not he should.  For my money he’s still the best analyst on television, and I continue to be impressed how an ex-WR can pick out things going on with interior line play in live action, with the replays then backing him up.  Plus he’s not afraid to be critical of players and coaches, which is pretty rare in national broadcasting.

  • jeff
  • Cols714

    It’s been dead around here. Any predictions on the Bengals game? What’s funny is that if you went solely by hype and network appearances you’d think that the Ravens have absolutely owned the Bengals. However, the Bengals have been solid against them for years.

    I say 17-14 Bengals

    • Rob D

      I think the Bengals have a very good shot to win that game. Solid D and I think Dalton is for real..really nice player.

      I am of the opinion that the Ravens are going to fade a bit down the stretch but probably not this week.

      I say 20-17 Ravens and I hate myself for saying it!

  • Randy Steele

    I thought this was excellent. Wish I had written it.

    http://www.steelerfury.com/content/sevenquest-part-ten

    • Cols714

      I second that. Great read.