Week 11: Let’s Go Bengals Thread

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UR6KXGPFIFYZSVJNCXCJNHDQJQ Bob Costas

    Who dey?

  • Cols714

    The Ravens really lucked out on that TD overturned by replay stupidity. They really need to do something about this catch rule. Looked like a catch to me.

    Andy Dalton is for real.

    • Rob D

      He is a good one..but I think his carriage has turned back into a pumpkin. He’s throwing those rookie INT’s that get you beat. Agree about the call though.

      Bengals never win the games that matter.

      PS
      By some of the scores this week (Detroit/Carolina) you might as well be watching the CFL. And I did! LOL..

  • Cols714

    The replay thing is starting to annoy me. At first it was used to overturn obviously bad calls. Now though it’s like they are looking for reasons to make something not a catch. So you get Troy’s interception vs the Colts overturned, Calvin Johnosn last year, and this one vs the Bengals. If it looks like a catch, most often it is.

    • John S.

      I agree.  I think replay is damaging the game.  Especially automatic booth review of scoring plays.  It takes the excitement out of great plays as you go from “Wow I’ve never seen anything like that” to “Please stop showing me the replay over and over while we wait for the ref to figure it out.”  It’s the equivalent of throwing a penalty flag on every single scoring play and then having the refs meet to discuss it for a few minutes before signaling TD or not.  Knocks the winds out of the sails of a lot of celebrations.

      • Cols714

        Yep
        I wonder if they can move to have less replay. There might be a call that’s wrong here or there, but the long delays really suck. I”m sort of tired of it, unless, and this is important, there is an obviously bad call that needs to be overturned.

  • Randy Steele

    The Ravens escape with a win, but they look highly suspect and exposed in the process–a very beatable team during the playoffs, even if they win the AFC North title outright.

    Sure, this was a win for Baltimore, and they have every right to it, but is anybody afraid of these guys now? Man, they have a lot of holes. All aspects of their defense has eroded considerably this year, and today they were one dubious interpretation of the rules from being launched into an overtime game.

  • Cols714

    I really dislike bitching about the refs, but since it wasn’t our game…what is the catch rule? The guy caught it, broke the plane of the goal, stepped out of bounds, then the ball hit the ground with him still holding it. Why isn’t the play over as soon as he scores or steps out?

    • Rob D

      It drives me crazy. Do you remember the Hines non catch from a few years back where he rolled out of bounds and lost control of the ball at some point?
      My wife said “OK, I think I get it. Hines could have caught the ball, rolled out of bounds, up the steps of the stadium and back down again and if the ball comes loose at the very end of his journey, it’s not a catch. 
      Then she uttered an oath that I have never heard her use, nor will I repeat it here..lol

      • Cols714

        Yep. And the Holmes catch in the 2008 AFCCG vs the Ravens when he caught the ball, got tackled and stretched for the end zone. As he stretched he hit the ball on the ground. They replayed it and called it a no catch. Even though he had already caught the freaking ball. They had to settle for a FG which kept the game close until the end.

        And the Troy pick in 2005 playoffs vs the Colts. Ugh

        • Rob D

          The Troy non-INT put me into such a rage that I was glad I was home alone watching it unfold. Then the Bettis fumble just about did me in.

          The NFL…where losing more hair off your already thinning head and almost croaking of a heart attack happens! Catch the fever…

    • Randy Steele

      In other words, after scoring a touchdown the receiver should hold onto the ball until he’s finished taking his post-game shower.

  • Cols714

    In an earlier thread we were having a discussion on the receiver screen, with some people saying it was a dumb play (because of the Suggs pick) and me and others defending it. Well a reporter took a look at this and settled the debate in my favor of course:
    Through 10 games, Arians has called 31 receiver screens, with Roethlisberger completing all but three of them for an 8.6 yard average per play.

    Read more: Steelers’ screens test defenses’ mettle – Pittsburgh Tribune-Review http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_768349.html#ixzz1eM1Nn4pu

  • Cols714

    Why does everyone keep saying that Andrew Luck is the best QB prospect since Peyton Manning? Shouldn’t it be since Cam Newton? Newton is bigger, stronger, faster, and just as accurate. Why is he overlooked in this comparison?

    Is it because Luck is white?

    • Rob D

      Newton looks like an awesome player to me..Tend to agree.

      But then I think Tebow is a joke, contrary to Peter King..lol..so what do I know?

    • EasyLikeSundayMorning

      When people talk about prospects, I think they are usually comparing college players to where current players were considered to be when they were drafted.  So you get comparisons to Peyton Manning or John Elway (both #1 overall) but not to, say, Joe Montana or Tom Brady (#82 and #199).  As a prospect, Newton had baggage:  not playing under center, a very simplified offense and verbiage, questions about his character (due to what appears to be mainly his father’s behavior, elite play for only one season, etc.  It seemed like even most of Newton’s supporters didn’t think he was going to be so good so fast.  So while he had the talent to be the #1 pick, he was thought to have a fair amount of risk.

      I also think that part of the Luck mystique is his last name.  Not only does it have its own positive connotation, but the rhyme of “suck for Luck” became a meme in and of itself.  The fact that he probably would have been the #1 pick last year and came back for his senior year and has supposedly performed well doesn’t hurt him either.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UR6KXGPFIFYZSVJNCXCJNHDQJQ Bob Costas

    The Steelers defense hardly forced any turnovers in the first half of the season, having the fewest interceptions and near the bottom of the league in fumbles forced an recovered.  I’m interested to see if that is a trend that continues through the rest of the year or whether there is some “regression to the mean”, with the Steelers suddenly forcing more turnovers.  I’m thinking that once they have all 4 LBers in their actual positions will start seeing more turnovers.

    • Anonymous

      Harrison specifically is usually very adept as forcing fumbles. He started out under strength with his bad back and then was lost for several games. I expect at least that facet to improve some.

  • EasyLikeSundayMorning

    The Ravens game on Thanksgiving vs. the 49ers is possibly their hardest remaining game.  They do play in SD in December, but the Chargers have been laying an egg and may be out of it by then.  They also are at Cincy in week 17, but the Bengals may not have anything to play for at that point.  Their other games are two against Cleveland and Indy at home.  Go Jim in the Harbaugh Bowl!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UR6KXGPFIFYZSVJNCXCJNHDQJQ Bob Costas

      Hopefully Jim Harbaugh treats this like another regular season Superbowl.  That way, even if the Ravens win, they’ll have their typical let down game the next week.

  • EasyLikeSundayMorning

    Another reason why this weekend is possibly the most important one for our playoff seeding: the Pats hardest remaining game, by a country mile, is Sunday at Philly.  After that, they play IND, at WAS, at DEN, MIA, at BUF.  It would be hard to construct an easier slate than that. 

    • Cols714

      Yep
      If we win out, we will win the division (Raven’s aren’t winning out) and #1 seed. Far more likely is we finish at 12-4 along with the Patriots and Ravens. So the Ravens win the division, but I don’t know who ends up #1 them or the Patriots.

      Hopefully Baltimore loses 2 out of SD, SF, and Cincy, and goes 11-5 which give us the division (assuming a 5-1 finish) and the #1 seed. 

  • Cols714

    I know we are all counting this game as a win, but the Chiefs pass rush scares me. Especially since our OL struggles way more on the road than at home. I just hope Ben doesn’t get hit too many times. This might be a good game to try more running and win with defense rather than wing it all over the place.

    • EasyLikeSundayMorning

      Any NFL game can be lost, and our collapse a few years ago included a horrible loss to a bad Chiefs team.  But I’m not nervous about this one.  We’re double digit favorites on the road, we tend to play well in prime time and everyone on the team should realize how important this.

      Barring flukes or catastrophes, I don’t see how the Chiefs score more than 13-17 points on us and I don’t see how they keep us under 20.  We’ve scored 20 or more in 7 of 10 games, with many against better defenses. Only 4 teams have scored more than 17 on us, and the Chiefs with Palko may be the worst offense we see this year (it is certainly one of the worst).

      • Cols714

        I’m not worried about us losing. I’m just worried about Ben getting beat up again. I want that guy healthy.

  • Cols714

    Legursky in at LG according to SCI. That sounds like an overdue move. Kemo sucks. Legursky, while not that much better, at least shouldn’t have the 2 mind numbing plays and penalties that Kemo gets per game.

    I’m guessing the upgrading the LG position is going to be a huge priority next offseason.

    • EasyLijeSundayMorning

      Agreed on all fronts. It also seems highly likely that Kemo will be cut in the offseason. His small signing bonus shouldn’t make it hard to do, either.

    • Rob D

      Way, WAY overdue. That’s the best spot for Legs, IMO, not that STarks is playing decent LT for us. We definately have to find someone in the offseason but its nice that Legs gets a chance to contribute, He’s much like Hoke, not a great or perhaps even very good player but a useful guy who can fill in and not embarrass himself or get Ben killed. Can’t say the same about Kemo who seemd to get worse with every snap in some games.

  • EasyLikeSundayMorning

    Another November Super Bowl win, another Gatorade shower for John Harbaugh.

    • Rob D

      I have watched most of the 9ers games this year (buddy is a big fan and PVR’s all of them) and I was wondering just how good they really were. My friend thinks they are playing over their heads a bit and that Jim H. has them playing with emotion and control.

      But to say they were bludgeoned by the Ravens D-line and Suggs would be a gross understatement. Alex Smith is clearly not an elite QB but I respect the guy overall. He had literally .5 of a second most snaps to make something happen. Ngata- I think we are watching one of the greatest ever to play this game..when healthy, he singlehandedly makes them into a top 3 D. Just an awesome display of ..awesomeness…wink

      A few observations:
      Suh needs to calm down before he kills someone out there. Someone said that Joe Greene was a loose cannon his first few years as well but the times have changed. I love Suh’s talent but he needs to see a counsellor.

      We need more penalty flags thrown. It’s what the customers pay to see after all.

      Can we get more people, machines, hangers on, cheerleaders and cranes on the sidelines? Then we can take bets on who will get run over first! Some of the sidelines at NFL games resemble staging areas for the D day invasion.

      My favourite intrusive commercial break was : player injured (apparently not serious), lying on the sideline with staff caring for him after a TD. Break for commercials. Come back..kick the extra point..and blast right back to commercials. That was exciting.

      I think you could put together highlights from all 3 games and you might have an interesting game to watch. 3 of the dullest contests possible..Detroit and San Fran look like their old selves..and Dallas wins after possibly the luckiest drive in history by Romo. His receivers making impossible catch after IC..it was comical but I failed to laugh.

      The battle of the 3 douchebags. Harbaugh, Harbaugh and Ray Lewis in civies with a camera recording every grimace, pained outrage and apparent constipation problems of all 3. I almost blew up wondering who to root for..jeebus.