Week 3 Game Thread: Bears vs. Steelers

Welp, here goes nothing.

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  • David

    Unbelievable ending to the Bungel-Whackers game. The Whack was driving with 4+’ to go, up 30-27, already in FG range. 4th & inches they go for it, fumble, and the Bungels score a TD to make it 34-30. Ball game. Unbelievable.

    • Rob D

      Man..I had no access to the games today. Would have liked to see that one. HOpe they have it on NFLN this week…That’s a big win for the Bungels..and of course, BAlt crushes it today..frig..

  • Sarah Mott

    Is that as bad as Rodgers has played in maybe 5 yrs?

  • EasyLikeSundayMorning

    Big ending for Hoyer and the Browns, too. Nice to see our 4th string QB from last year have some success.

  • Terribletoweler

    Yep, 9-0. Sack and fumble=TD and the defense isn’t stopping Forte as much as we would like.

    • Terribletoweler

      At 10-0, they finally get a real chance to introduce the defense of the Bears because it was their first opportunity.

      • Terribletoweler

        Ben has to complete that pass to Sanders. Another inaccurate deep ball. Wallace probably doesn’t catch it if it is overthrown like that, either.

  • Terribletoweler

    Nice completion to Brown for a long gain. On that play Jones wasn’t even looking back and he was wide open, and it was before Ben released. I’m no expert but I think you’re supposed to see where your QB might check down to you.

  • Terribletoweler

    Cotchery just watched the ball go past him. Didn’t even put his arms up. Major takes it in for a TD unless it is overturned. Look back at that play, Cotchery does absolutely nothing and gets blown up on the play. Not even present.

  • Terribletoweler

    DeCastro just blew 2nd and inches. Briggs runs past him and DeCastro acts like he was going to pass him off to someone, but there was no one to pass him to.

  • Terribletoweler

    Touchdown! Someone mail Dwyer a thank you note for picking up that blitz on an island.

  • Terribletoweler

    Decastro with some big blocks on two straight runs.

  • David

    Well, I’m sold on the fact that Adams is a legitimate bust. Sure he’s blocking Peppers, but he’s not even delaying him 0.1 sec

    • Ted

      He’s a guard right now who could become a good RT by next year and possibly a LT way down the road, who would still have matchup problems with speed rushers. But he has absolutely no business playing LT right now. Still flabbergasted they didn’t try to re-sign Starks during the summer or after he was cut by the Chargers. Now he’s with the Rams. The undersized Beachum is probably our best tackle – on both sides.

  • David

    Dwyer had a great run, but…WHY IS HE IN THE GAME?

  • EasyLikeSundayMorning

    DeCastro pulling on the Dwyer long run was reminiscent of Faneca on the FWP 75-yard Super Bowl play.

  • Eric

    I don’t know that it would make much of a difference but the Steelers have brutal fumble luck so far this year.

    • Terribletoweler

      Luck or subpar ball awareness?

    • EasyLikeSundayMorning

      All of our lost fumbles have had an unusually large impact in the first three games. And recovering that fumble in the first half would’ve helped.

    • EasyLikeSundayMorning

      Well, we sure got lucky on that Ben recovery of his own fumble.

    • David

      Ben’s fumbles were unacceptable. Jones’ fumble was due to a monster hit.

      But you are correct, b/c on 4th & G, Timmons nearly knocked the ball out on a similar hit. Dumb luck.

  • Rob D

    I bet they are glad they are leaving town for London..I would be packed at this point..

  • Terribletoweler

    Offense is looking better than they were. Beachum calmed down RT, but he can’t play right and left at the same time. I also noticed on one run where Dwyer got stuffed Paulson was double teaming a Bear that Beachum had blocked, and the guy Paulson could have blocked took Dwyer down.

  • calig23

    Got to love Brown grinning after taking such a stupid, unnecessary penalty…

  • EasyLikeSundayMorning

    Worilds with two good plays on that drive. There has been chatter of him being able to play ILB. I wonder I he will.

  • calig23

    Well, I guess Brown made up for his dumb penalty with a ridiculous TD catch. We just might have a ballgame here.

  • EasyLikeSundayMorning

    One of the best catches I have ever seen.

  • calig23

    This would be a really good time for the defense to force its first turnover.

  • calig23

    Letting Cutler scramble to convert a 3rd and 10 really sucks.

  • calig23

    And now they give up a long completion to Marshall to convert another 3rd down.

  • calig23

    As usual, the defense plays fairly well for most of the game and then suddenly can’t make a stop to save their life. It looked to me like Bennett got that 2nd foot down. If it’s a TD, this game is over.

  • calig23

    That’s the game.

  • EasyLikeSundayMorning

    Ben is Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde this year.

  • David

    Ben killed us this game. So did the D last drive.

    And I’ll eat crow now: keep Dwyer in the game next game.

    • Terribletoweler

      He showed something more than our other backs have for sure. Which means he will not get the start, right?

      • David

        Right! Lol

  • EasyLikeSundayMorning

    I thought Haley called a good game.

    • Terribletoweler

      By far his best this year. Of course, with the improvement in execution, it makes it easy to say that. But even then it was his best yet.

  • David

    Those fake WR screens were fabulous. Now if we can shore up the line and stop giving away freebies…

  • David

    And to make matters worse, the Vikes will be fired up for us next game, as they’re still embarrassed they lost to the Brownies.

  • Ted

    Outside of the Jaguars and Bucs, this may be the worst team in the NFL and they are not going to better any time in the next couple of years. The talent level is low due to poor drafting, roster mgt. and development of younger players. The best players are old, and the team will still be in salary-cap hell for at least a few more years due to continually pushing back salaries onto future caps. This front office needs an overhaul.

    • EasyLikeSundayMorning

      i know this is what most people think, but I disagree.

      • Ted

        Please explain. Our strength is on defense, where our six best players are in year 7 or higher, including 4 who are 32 or older. The defense is not going to get better in the next 2 years. It will more likely get much, much worse.

        The o-line can’t get worse, but those guys simply are not performing as well as high draft picks should at this point of their careers. Gilbert will be a FA after 14, as will Pouncey.

        Roethlisberger is an old 31 in his 10th season with a beaten-up body. Still a good QB, but he has taken way too many blows.

        Plus, we don’t have the cap room to improve. The only good thing, I guess, is that we don’t have many young players we want to extend for the long-term.

        • EasyLikeSundayMorning

          I can explain, but not until the end of the work day. I don’t see the roster as the talent-bereft wasteland that you do. I actually see lots of young talent, but it obviously has to step up. The idea that we have the third-worst talent in the league or that we are in salary cap hell seem like hyperbole that I hope is borne of the pain and frustration of being 0-3.

          i expect a lots of garment rending and finger pointing on other teams abd other sites. I’m hoping the Steelers and the Steelers Lounge community can show some composure.

          • David

            Easy, I cannot explain this team. I mean:

            we call for Haley’s firing, yet he calls a pretty good game

            we call for more touches for Jones, and he coughs one up and Dwyer clearly outplays him

            we call for more touches for Brown, and he get them and we still lose

            we want Heath back, and he’s back and we still lose

            This team is an enigma

    • David

      I agree with you for the most part. If they didn’t rough our punter, this never would have been a game.

    • David

      And what worries me is our D. The stat that flashed tonight was our D is the oldest avg age in the league. Probably, maybe, had something to do with, when we needed a stop, they converted a 3rd &10, a 3rd & 12, and a 3rd & 5.

  • EasyLikeSundayMorning

    I don’t think the front office gifted the Bears 23 points. That was Ben.

    • Intropy

      The fumbles are on Ben. The line should protect better to be sure, but players who get hit are responsible for holding onto the ball.

      The interceptions are not on Ben though. The last one was a low percentage shot at the end of the game when down by multiple scores. There was almost no chance at that point the only small chance they had required immediate scoring. In that situation you take the risk. On the other one he threw a ball to a moderately covered Cotchery in a place where only his guy had a chance at the ball. That’s the theory anyway. When your guy doesn’t even turn back to see the throw that all goes out the window.

  • EasyLikeSundayMorning

    Turnovers were absolutely brutal in this game.

    • David

      Fitting end, huh?

  • Colleen

    You can’t have the D on the field 80% of the time and expect them to do as good a job as if the offense actually did something.

    Haley must go. He just doesn’t work for PGH.

    Can SOMEBODY please convince Tebow to become a TE for the Steelers?

    • David

      I totally agree with point #1, but I though Haley’s playcalling last night was pretty good.
      For point #3, well…

  • Eric

    The funny thing is this game was a definite improvement. They just looked like a bad football team last night instead of an inept one. Progress!

    Going forward I’m curious about two things. Will the offensive line continue to get better? The defense has been respectable but can they force any turnovers/sacks?

    The answer to those to questions will determine how the rest of the season plays out. I don’t think we should be surprised that the offensive line is playing badly (feel free to be surprised at HOW badly they’re playing though). It has to be the youngest and most inexperienced line in the league. Putting them all together is going to lead to growing pains. To my eye, I thought they’ve been better each week. Watching the Bengals-Packers game yesterday made me think they were actually decent last week. If they can keep improving then the whole offense will come alive. After that we can then we can decide how best to run Haley out of town!!

    • David

      I’ll add one more thing: stop turning the ball over

      I’ll bet that if we can do that, we’ll win some games.

  • countertorque

    I thought this game continued an upward trend from week 1. Despite a turnover differential of 4(!!), they were within 4 points in the 4th quarter. Ben looked better than last week, but is still giving balls away. He started turning sacks into completions like we’ve grown to expect. I thought Dwyer and Jones looked good running. Some of the long passes are starting to connect. The defense looked good, but you could see Woodley was gassed in the close in shots late in the 3rd. So, I wasn’t surprised that they couldn’t get the stop they needed at the end. I don’t know why we can’t get a turnover.
    Maybe I’m being too optimistic. I don’t think this team is going to win a lot of games. But, I think we just need to let the process work. They’re going to be a lot better by mid season.

  • Rob D

    This might be a very good team. Next year. I wonder what the success rate of teams that start 2 2nd year tackles is in NFL history? I bet it’s not good unless said tackles are top 7 overall picks. Hey, did you enjoy the epic fail of Lebeau’s “exotic” blitz package on third downs as much as I did…lol…seriously, he’s a great, HOF man, player and coach. But the announcers are making him out to be Jehovah. He’s not. Cutler could have walked for the first down on the key conversion.

  • EasyLikeSundayMorning

    As I’m sure everyone is, I’m upset at being 0-3. With the Ravens handily beating the Texans and the Bengals coming back to beat the Packers, our season now has no margin of error. We were in a similar spot last night down 24-3. It was nice to see the team avoid panic and come back to make it 27-23. Unfortunately, the odds are that the season will end up like last night as a lost cause.

    There were obviously too many negatives to win and those are being mentioned everywhere (like turnovers and our inexperienced OL). I’d add Markus Wheaton’s hands as a concern.

    But I thought there were a number of positives worth mentioning:
    1. Kelvin Beachum is a decent OT, versatile and a very good 6th round pick. The problem is that while he seemingly can play both LT and RT, he can’t do so simultaneously.
    2. Reports of the death of Antonio Brown have been greatly exaggerated. He was awesome last night and that TD catch is about as good as it gets.
    3. The DL has bottled up Chris Johnson and Matt Forte (other tha one play) and overall has been decent.
    4. Despite not having Cortez Allen for two games, the pass D has been good. William Gay’s non-tackle whiff was not so hot, though.
    5. The special teams have been much better than I expected. Containing Hester is no gimme. Seeing Troy block an extra point made me wonder why I haven’t seen him block one or a FG before. Jarvis is great on coverage. Maybe Danny Smith knows what he’s doing.
    5. There are a number of young, talented players on defense in Jarvis, Sharknado, Vince Williams, Cortez Allen and McClendon. We’ve seen some good plays from Hood, Heyward and even Worilds. That’s around 5-7 current or future starters who should all be good players for a while.
    6. Several players making their return played well, including Heath, David Johnson and Dwyer. With Bell and Will Johnson, that’s 5 pieces of the offense that will be added to the offense over a few weeks. Clearly the passing attack was helped by Heath and DJ alone.
    7. Our opponents are 7-2 on the season; two are in the top 6 or so in power polls and the Titans aren’t as bad as we thought.

    • Intropy

      1:
      Beachum is a valuable backup because he is serviceable and can play anywhere if the need arises. I think if you’re pining for him to play both LT and RT that says a lot more about the starters than it does anything else. I wouldn’t put it past him to grow into a capable starter though.

      5b:

      Shamarko is all hype thus far as far as I can see. That does not mean I believe he is or is going to be a bad player, but he hasn’t showed all that much in games, nor has he really had much opportunity. He has a ton of camp hype to his credit. Paulsen had a lot of that too and he has looked terrible in games.

      Vince Williams is the same as Thomas but even more so.

      Heyward has looked impressive to me. I’m comfortable expecting him to be a good player.

      I think I’ve seen enough Hood to doubt he will ever be good. He has been playing better this season so far, but all that does is bring him into the JAG range.

  • EasyLikeSundayMorning

    We were minus 5 on turnovers against the Bears. But it was actually worse than that, as one was a pick-six (which Simmons calls a TAINT), another was fumble returned for a TD (which I think should be called a FART), and another fumble in our own red zone led to a TD. That’s 21 points gift-wrapped (actually 20 due to Troy’s blocked XP). There’s a pretty good chance that no NFL team has ever won with such a disastrous set of giveaways.

    Other than those 5 plays, I thought we outplayed the Bears. I know that that is like the old scenario of, “Other than that, how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?” But to me it speaks more of failure to execute than bad coaching or a horrible lack of talent.

  • EasyLikeSundayMorning

    This is the first time I’ve double-posted across websites, but I think this is an important point that has been somewhat overlooked. Here’s what I wrote on BTSC this morning:

    In the span of a few weeks, we’ll have gotten back our injured starting TE, back up TE, starting FB, and starting RB, and we added our starting RB from last year and a new starting C. That’s the biggest in-season talent infusion I can remember on any team in the league. Ever.

    Heath, DJ, Dwyer and Velasco have all made noticeable contributions, and Velasco has also enabled Beachum to upgrade OT. Many of us expect significant contributions from Will Johnson. If Bell can do what the coaches and FO expect, the offense could actually be very good.

    Now if only our team intern in charge of stickum would come back from his leave of absence…