Pittsburgh Steelers 1st-Round Draft Board: Who to Take and Who Not to Take

The Pittsburgh Steelers are coming off consecutive 8-8 seasons and arguably have their least talented projected 53-man roster entering an NFL Draft since the turn of the Millennium.

Fortunately help should be on the way from what many draft observers (including Steelers’ GM Kevin Colbert) have proclaimed possibly the deepest overall talent pool ever to choose from in an NFL Draft.

With glaring holes throughout its depth chart, Pittsburgh rookies should have the opportunity to compete for immediate starting jobs and/or serious playing time at receiver, defensive end, cornerback, inside linebacker, outside linebacker and possibly even left tackle depending on when the Steelers address each position in this week’s three-day NFL draft.

“I don’t think we can say that there’s going to be an impact guy that’s going to come in and be a starter,” Colbert told media at his pre-draft press conference on Monday. “I think they’ll certainly be able to compete and maybe to contribute in some of the sub-packages and they’ll continue to develop.”

Wait… what?

Of course, the Steelers sticking to an antiquated strategy of always drafting the “Best Player Available” over their many immediate positional needs could prevent improvement in 2014. This quote is disturbing, particularly since it came from the man who will have final call on each Pittsburgh selection.

However, it also shows why football people with experience outside the Steelers’ organization must be added to the front office in power positions if Pittsburgh fails to make the playoffs for a third consecutive season this fall despite having one of the league’s top five franchise quarterbacks (Ben Roethlisberger) in the prime of his career.

Accordingly, here is a list of players Pittsburgh should consider drafting in the first round at No. 15 overall (assuming they do not trade down, which is preferable) and – more importantly – those the Steelers should not select in the opening round. In this era of free agency, 1st-round picks who are not quarterbacks must make significant contributions immediately and be regular, every-down starters by year No. 2 at the latest unless you have a loaded and deep team, which the Steelers clearly are not right now.

 

5 PROSPECTS STEELERS SHOULDN’T DRAFT AT No. 15 IN FIRST ROUND

 

1. TE Eric Ebron, 6-4, 250, North Carolina

A boom-bust prospect who could either be the pass-receiving tight end in the NFL in three years or completely out of the league. The best part of Colbert’s tenure and why he has historically enjoyed so much success with 1st-round picks is that he values college production above all else and usually goes for sure things with opening selections over long-term potential.

In their rotating mock draft for ESPN, Todd McShay pegged Ebron to the Steelers at No. 15 as the best available player on the board, and then was quickly and justifiably lambasted by veteran personnel man Bill Polian for drafting a Steelers tight end who does not block well or willingly, and has work ethic and maturity problems.

Mel Kiper then came back to draft receiver Jarvis Landry in the 2nd round for the Steelers, which is much earlier than many experts project the LSU star to be selected from such a deep group of receiver prospects. McShay culminated the three-round mock draft with the Steelers selecting troubled Clemson corner Bashaud Breeland.

In other words, because they failed to address the Steelers’ two biggest needs (corner and receiver) in the 1st round, the ESPN crew ended up reaching at both spots in rounds No. 2 and No. 3, resulting in a mock draft despised by most Pittsburgh fans.

Worse, this potential 1st-round pick almost assuredly would not start this fall for Pittsburgh, who recently extended the contract of veteran, three-down player and excellent blocker Heath Miller through 2016.

Some have suggested the Steelers would use Ebron as the big receiver they so desperately need, but that would require head coach Mike Tomlin and offensive coordinator Todd Haley to change their system and wont, which seems unlikely to ever happen quickly from these two for better or worse.

Further, with Roethlisberger’s propensity to keep plays alive and scramble from side to side, the Steelers need another speedy receiver on the field rather than a second tight end. Ebron is the only potential 1st-round pick that should make Pittsburgh fans cringe.

 

2. S Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, 6-2, 208, Alabama/S Calvin Pryor, 5-11, 207, Louisville

These two players are not placed on this list due to their talents, but rather their position. The Steelers’ only lucrative free-agent signee this offseason was Mike Mitchell, a former Carolina Panther who was inked to a 5-year, $25 million deal to replace Ryan Clark at free safety.

Meanwhile, the contract of Troy Polamalu was extended for two years following the future hall of famer’s first fully healthy season since 2008. In other words, the Steelers’ starters at safety are set for at least a couple of years, so no prospects at that spot should be considered in the opening round. If the Steelers take a safety in any of the first four rounds this weekend ahead of so many other needs, then trading away their 3rd-rounder from this year’s draft to take Shamarko Thomas in the 4th round of the 2013 draft was clearly a mistake.

 

3. ILB C.J. Mosley, 6-2, 234, Alabama/ILB Ryan Shazier, 6-1, 237, Ohio State

Unlike safety, a quality rookie would have an excellent chance to start at inside linebacker next to stalwart Lawrence Timmons. After all, rookie 6th-round pick Vince Williams started 11 games last year and was serviceable after veteran Larry Foote was lost to a season-ending injury. Foote has since been released.

Either Mosley or Shazier would likely start from the opening game and provide an immediate upgrade. However, the Steelers need a bigger, run-stuffing mike linebacker next to the athletic Timmons, and neither of these prospects fit that description. In fact, Shazier is a much better fit to play weakside outside linebacker in a 4-3 scheme than any spot in a Dick LeBeau-coached defense.

Mosley’s stock has fallen somewhat due to a history of injuries and because some recent Alabama defensive prospects failed to live up to NFL expectations after essentially participating on what has become an annual college all-star team comprised of former five-star recruits.

However, I do believe Mosley will be a solid pro if he can stay healthy and would excel next to Timmons. But the Steelers only need a one- or two-down inside linebacker to play next to Timmons. They also need to start using more dime and nickel alignments, taking the second inside linebacker off the field for obvious passing downs like they did more often last year after Foote went down.

But the addition of Mosley would mean that both inside linebackers are far better than any corner on the roster, which is a recipe for disaster in a conference featuring Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. Please also remember that both projected Pittsburgh starting cornerbacks in 2014 (Ike Taylor and Cortez Allen) are slated to be unrestricted free agents after this fall.

 

4. OLB Anthony Barr, 6-5, 255, UCLA

Barr is widely considered among this draft’s top pass rushers and best 3-4 outside linebackers, which is one position group that is not particularly deep in this mostly otherwise loaded draft. However, his mock projections vary greatly. Many see bust potential, evident by Barr ranking as the No. 31 overall prospect by ESPN.

The Steelers need to draft an outside linebacker this week. However, their 2014 starters are set after Jason Worilds followed up his breakout season by quickly signing the Steelers’ transition-tag offer worth $9.754 million this fall.

It would appear unlikely that Worilds would sign a one-year deal with no signing bonus so fast without giving other teams a chance to make a better offer if Pittsburgh’s brass had not conveyed to him that he was in their long-term plans. However, it would be prudent for the Steelers to take a wait-and-see approach with the often-injured Worilds, who will enter the first season of his career as an undisputed starter and as Pittsburgh’s top pass rusher.

There are concerns about the pass-rushing potential of last year’s 1st-round pick, Jarvis Jones, after he recorded only one sack in eight starts and 14 games of action as a rookie. Jones, however, was solid in run support and defending the pass, making him a likely bet to start at right outside linebacker for at least the next few years.

With so many other immediate and 2015 needs, the Steelers cannot afford to draft Barr at No. 15 overall to be the team’s No. 3 outside linebacker for this fall and possibly years beyond, but that is exactly what the respected Neal Coolong did in his latest mock draft for Behind the Steel Curtain.

If there is one position where the Steelers have shown a propensity to bypass their draft needs and become enamored with a prospect it is outside linebacker, as shown by the illogical selections of Worilds in the 2nd and Thad Gibson in the 4th rounds of the 2010 draft even though the Steelers had two then-Pro Bowl starters (LaMarr Woodley and James Harrison) each under contract for four more years and no roster spot for Gibson.

It would be far more understandable if Pittsburgh selected a 2nd or 3rd round outside linebacker in this year’s draft, but Barr at No. 15 would be inexcusable considering he may not start for multiple years, as well as the Steelers’ huge needs at corner and receiver.

 

5. DE RaShede Hageman, 6-6, 310, Minnesota/NT Louis Nix, 6-6, 331, Notre Dame/DE Stephon Tuitt, 6-6, 304, Notre Dame

The Steelers’ need on the defensive line based on their current roster is greater than any other position. Outside of budding star Cameron Heyward, undersized nose tackle Steve McLendon and the recently-signed Cam Thomas, the rest of the defensive linemen on the Pittsburgh roster have a combined 22 career NFL regular-season snaps.

Any of the three prospects above would be excellent additions… at the Steelers’ No. 46 overall selection in round No. 2. All would be major reaches in the 1st round. Even though I offer criticism of Colbert’s BPA draft strategy, one positive is it means that he will not reach for any player in the 1st round, which is why none of these three will be seriously considered for that spot.

 

 

5 PROSPECTS STEELERS SHOULD DRAFT IN FIRST ROUND AT NO. 15 OVERALL

(and who realistically may be available at that spot)

 

1.CB Darqueze Dennard, 5-11, 199, Michigan State

The Steelers must get a No. 1 corner for 2015 out of this draft and that should probably be addressed in the 1st round based on the positional value for each team need throughout this draft. Dennard is a complete and physical player, who is rated as the top corner prospect in the draft by most services, including ESPN and CBS Sports.

 

2. CB Kyle Fuller, 6-0, 190, Virginia Tech

Ideally the Steelers could trade down 4-7 spots in the first round and select Fuller. However, they could lose Fuller through such a scenario, because his stock has been rising due to no weaknesses in his game. Still, it would be worth potentially losing Fuller to stockpile premium picks, especially if Pittsburgh picks up a 2nd-rounder like Sports Illustrated‘s Peter King just projected in a hypothetical trade-down with the Eagles in which the Steelers still netted Fuller at No. 22 overall.

“Kyle Fuller is one of my favorite players in the whole draft,” NFL Network draft expert Mike Mayock told the Baltimore Sun. “What’s interesting about the corners is that most of the personnel guys have 
[Ohio State corner Bradley] Roby and Gilbert as their highest rated corners just because they have better movement skills.

“Most of the coaches like Fuller and Dennard because they’re better football players today. You know what you’re getting. Fuller is my No. 1 corner, first- round corner. He has it in his DNA. He can play on, off, he can play man or zone.”

 

3. WR Odell Beckham, Jr., 5-11, 198, LSU

Beckham has emerged as the clear No. 3 receiver prospect in this draft behind Clemson’s Sammy Watkins and Texas A&M’s Mike Evans, both of whom will undoubtedly be selected in the top 10 overall.

He would be a nice pick for the Steelers, who clearly have a need at receiver. But there will be tremendous value at receiver still available for Pittsburgh in the 2nd round, as opposed to corner where the fall-off between 1st- and 2nd-round talent in this draft is more precipitous. If the overall depth of talent at those two spots were reversed, Beckham would sit atop my list right now, because he is a very good football player. However, he does not offer the size infusion needed in Pittsburgh’s receiving corps, where the current top three targets are all under 6-feet and 200 pounds.

 

4. OT Taylor Lewan, 6-7, 309, Michigan

Lewan is unlikely to still be on the board when the Steelers select at No. 15 overall. He may go as high as No. 5 to the Raiders. However, multiple draft prognosticators have him slotted to the Steelers or still available at No. 15.

Although he has off-the-field problems, Pittsburgh would have to consider Lewan at this spot if the front office and new offensive line coach Mike Munchak view him as potentially an above-average left tackle in the NFL. 6-foot-3 Kevin Beachum is better suited playing right tackle or guard. Neither fourth-year pro Marcus Gilbert or third-year bust Mike Adams appear capable of playing left tackle in the NFL, and both may be falling out of the Steelers’ long-term plans.

Notre Dame’s Zack Martin, who Kiper had going to the Steelers in a recent mock draft, has a higher probability of being a Pro-Bowl level player than Lewan. But that is because the 6-4 Martin projects best at guard or right tackle. Yes, he is athletic enough to play left tackle, but that would not be his best position.

The Steelers probably should not take an offensive lineman before Saturday. The only way they should consider doing so is if a quality left-tackle prospect is available. Lewan may fit that bill if he falls to No. 15 overall.

 

5. CB Justin Gilbert, 6-0, 202, Oklahoma State

Gilbert offers the best combination of size, athleticism (4.37 in the 40-yard dash) and play-making skills (seven interceptions in 2013) of any corner in this draft.

He has the potential to lock up the opponent’s best receiver in man-coverage regardless of that receiver’s size or speed. However, in between his standout sophomore and senior seasons, Gilbert had a subpar junior campaign, where he clearly lost confidence. That is not something you want to see in college from a potential 1st-round cornerback.

Moreover, Gilbert does not support the run or play zone coverage as well as Dennard or Fuller. In other words, he is not as good a fit for a classic Steelers corner. However, a player with his coverage skills and talent must be considered at No. 15 overall, or especially if Pittsburgh trades down a few spots in the opening round.

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  • dennisdoubleday

    I’m with you on CB in the first.

    I don’t agree about Anthony Barr. I would take him if we can. Your complaints about the selection of Worilds are well-known, but it seems illogical to use that to support your argument now that you agree he is in their long term plans at OLB. I’m sure the thinking was in 2010 that he would step up to replace James Harrison in 2012 or 2013. It would have been better had he managed to do so in 2012, but the fact that his development was delayed does not make the plan a bad one.

    The same logic applies to Barr. He is insurance against JJ failure (but I do think Jones will step up this year), AND he provides leverage if the Steelers decide the price for the long-term Worilds deal is too high, or too risky given his own injury issues.

    If Worilds plays great this year, they can still franchise him for another year, and let him go to the highest bidder in 2015–IF and only IF they have somebody else in the pipeline. That gives them leverage.

    If Worilds fails this year, then the need for Barr (or another pass rushing OLB) is even more obvious.

  • ThereIsNoSpoon

    I love the trade-down scenario for Fuller. To make this happen, on Thursday keep wishing for QBs to be selected in the top 10 and for Oakland to pick Darius Heyward-Bey. Wait, they can’t do that this year?

  • David

    Bleacher Report has us taking Evans in R1 and Watkins (CB, Florida) in R2.

    I don’t mind the 1st pick, but I’m not familiar with the second guy.

    • Randy Steele

      Jaylen Watkins is Sammy Watkins stepbrother, for what that’s worth.

  • Cols714

    Prediction thread? How about here? Who will be drafted by the Steelers in the 1st round?
    I predict Fuller.

    • http://www.steelerslounge.com/ ryan

      I like Fuller at 1.15, too, though I just read Dulac said that the Steelers would only consider Fuller if Dennard and Gilbert are gone.

      No idea how true that is; I watched three of Gilbert’s games and he didn’t make a single tackle in the running game. Didn’t even try. Fuller seems pretty dynamic, though injuries might be a concern. Dennard looks like a solid player, though I wonder about all the downfield grabbing. That won’t fly in the NFL.

      For the record: Hope the Steelers pass on Kelvin Benjamin should he be available in Round 2. I’d rather have Allen Robinson there, or Jarvis Landry later in the draft.

      Also: No Anthony Barr at 1.15.

      • Rob D

        Love Landry..hope he’s there in the 2nd. Be fine with Robinson as well. but Landry has that dynamism thing..

    • EasyLikeSundayMorning

      I predict a greater run at a position than has been in the mocks, leaving lots of options for us including trading back from 1.15. So…

      1.22 CB Kyle Fuller (after a trade with Eagles)
      2.46 NT Louis Nix III
      3.86 (From Eagles) WR Jarvis Landry
      3.97 WR Martavis Bryant
      4.118 DE Will Clarke
      5.157 DE Ben Gardner
      5.173 OLB Morgan Breslin
      6.192 ILB / OLB Devon Kennard
      6.215 RB De’Anthony Thomas
      7.230 TE Reggie Jordan

    • David

      I believe there will be an incredible run for CBs and Dennard, Gilbert, and Fuller will be gone by 15. Fuller will be drafted by NYJ, who will trade up to get right in front of us.

      So our choice will be to reach for Roby or get a WR.

      That being said, I believe it will be Beckham.

  • Rob D

    I really think they like Dennard more than Fuller, from what I’ve read online. So, I think he’s the pick.(if he’s not, I think it’s Fuller, like most of you..Gilbert scares me with the lack of tackling)

  • EasyLikeSundayMorning

    Sounds like Ben:

    http://grantland.com/features/2014-nfl-draft-top-quarterbacks-johnny-manziel-blake-bortles-teddy-bridgewater/

    “The single trait that separates great quarterbacks from good quarterbacks is the ability to make the great, spontaneous decision, especially at a crucial time,” wrote Walsh. “The play that was called has broken down and 22 players are moving in almost unpredictable directions all over the field. This is where the great quarterback uses his experience, vision, mobility and what we will call spontaneous genius. He makes something good happen.”

    • EasyLikeSundayMorning

      In case you don’t click the link, that quote is from Bill Walsh (not Steve or Joe).

      • http://www.steelerslounge.com/ ryan

        What about Brandon!?

        • EasyLikeSundayMorning

          Ha! And Brenda.

          • Randy Steele

            Actually, it reminds me a bit of this article I just picked up in the Wall Street Journal (yes, the Wall Street Journal), which is best thing I’ve read about anyone in this year’s draft.

            http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304655304579547842494983028?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsFifth&mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304655304579547842494983028.html%3Fmod%3DWSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsFifth

          • Cols714

            The Wall Street Journal is pretty good. Except it’s nutty opinion page is tending to weigh the rest of it down.

          • EasyLikeSundayMorning

            Fewer than half of first round picks ever make a Pro Bowl, so It is easier to predict that a draft pick will fail to meet expectations than to identify who will succeed. And my pre-draft batting average in assessing QBs is very much mixed, so take this with a hill of salt.

            I have a hard time visualizing Manziel as a perennial, elite QB. Perhaps this is because I’ve never seen a guy quite like him and he’ll create a whole new model. His maturity is a risk. But I’m more worried about his his size and likelihood of absorbing a lot of hits due to his style of play.

            Manziel’s play and body type remind me a bit of Fran Tarkenton. And I think Tarkenton would be injured and quickly out of the league if he played against today’s defensive players. As a current comparable, RG3 is about Manziel’s size and was faster before the injury but he was a rag doll by the end of year one.

            As a point of comparison, here are the measurables of two players: Player A: 6’4″, 220 pounds, 4.82 in the 40; Player B: 6’3″, 232 pounds, 4.60. Player A is Jack Lambert who was a MLB in the 1970s. Player B is Cam Chancellor who is a safety today.

            In other words, I share the concerns of Ben and Peezy: http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2014/story/_/id/10892842/2014-nfl-draft-ben-roethlisberger-pittsburgh-steelers-questions-johnny-manziel-durability

          • Rob D

            INdeed..that was a great side by side comparison, Easy..it’s an entirely different athlete today. I ddon’t like dismissing guys like Manziel out of hand since we can always use more excitement in the NFL…to go along with the TV timeouts, the endless replays, the phantom roughing calls etc…but it’s hard to see a guy who takes that many risks outside the pocket lasting long against the Suhs of the NFL. Ben is a big old horse.the country strong type..and I worry about him a lot when he used to take those hits like the famous Suggs one…I’d be very surprised if JM is able to bring that game to the NFL.

  • EasyLikeSundayMorning

    The draft is, of course, totally overblown these days. But it also can make a big difference. Scott Brown has a good example in his recap of picking Ben: http://espn.go.com/blog/pittsburgh-steelers/post/_/id/6043/big-ben-pick-returned-steelers-to-glory

    The draft that made the biggest impact on winning Super Bowls is the famed class of 1974. Five Hall of Famers were picked and the Steelers got 4 of them: Swann, Lambert, Stallworth and Webster (Dave Caspar was the other one). No other team has ever picked more than two HOF-ers in one draft. The draft was 17 rounds back then, but after it was over, we also signed UDFAs Donnie Shell and Randy Grossman. Eddie B’s piece from a dozen years ago on 1974 was reprinted in the PPG: http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2014/05/07/From-the-PG-archives-The-Steelers-1974-draft/stories/201405070189

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1974_NFL_Draft

    • Randy Steele

      If a team ever had a draft such as that these days, many of those players would be gone from that team through free-agency in 4-5 years. We’ll never again see a dynasty such as the Steelers had in the 1970s.

      • Rob D

        Yep…you could not pay them all. That’s kind of sad actually..I remember those epic Oakland/Pittsburgh tilts of the 70`s and 80s with both teams loaded with talent. FAns today don’t know what they are missing.

  • Rob D

    And a one..and a two..you know what to do!
    It’s all about the draft and doing the polka…lol

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naaU8YHvoGc

  • David

    Alright! Donald to the Rams.
    Bears prob. pick Ha Ha.
    We can get Dennard or Fuller.

  • djanyreason

    Wut

  • Randy Steele

    Shocked! Shazier? Shocked! The second round will be especially interesting.

  • Cols714

    Weird pick.

  • Intropy

    Why reach at a position where you have a guy you just tagged and a growing player just just picked in the first last season? The Steelers cannot afford to be so wasteful of their resources.

    • djanyreason

      JJ on Twitter seems to think he’ll be an ILB

      • Intropy

        In that case you still had Mosley available, and you still made a huge reach. This feels like a “Just pick the guy from OSU” choice.

  • Rob D

    Geebus…I hate that pick..just do not understand it at all.

  • Rob D

    Colbert says he needs to get bigger. Mayock says he can’t get much bigger..are they talking about the same player. And if he needs to get bigger, WHEN is he going to play? 2 years? I’m sorry…just trade down if you are going to reach like this..

    • djanyreason

      I think Mayock is wrong on that one, from what I’ve been reading. As far as when he’ll play, rookies don’t start in LeBeau’s defense – that’s more-or-less a given

      • Rob D

        Exactly right..so why is he the pick at 1-15? He’s a guy you could have had with a trade down

        • Intropy

          Heck, you could have had him with a trade up from the next round.

          • Rob D

            If this turns out to be a Tomlin pick..and I don’t know that and I never bought into those rumors before..somebody should step in and tell him to back right off…horrible. OK. calming down..lol…serenity now….

          • Randy Steele

            Sounds like a Tomlin pick. So if you hate it, you know where to send your mail.

          • Rob D

            I shall send a strongly worded letter to “The Times” !! (remember Andy Kaufman anyone?)

        • djanyreason

          Absolutely – since Cowher left we don’t trade up or down anymore. It really annoys me.

  • EasyLikeSundayMorning

    Is Shazier a better version of Spence?

    • David

      Supposedly. But this may tell you how Spence’s recovery is going. Maybe.

  • David

    Something tells me we wanted Gilbert, Beckham, or Fuller.

    All were gone by 15, so we settled for Shazier.

    Hope I’m wrong.

    • djanyreason

      Interviews said there were 19 players we had a 1.15 grade on. My guess is really just really liked Shazier.

  • Rob D

    Somebody punch me in the gut…that will feel better than this pick..:) OK, now they will take a much lesser CB in 2..all the good WR’s will be gone by the time they pick in the third..and this draft is going to be…uhhh..controversial , I think that’s the word….:)

  • Eric

    I remember when they picked Timmons and we all hated it. Glad we were right…

    • djanyreason

      Still think Joe Staley would’ve been a better pick…

      • Cols714

        No way. Timmons has been great since his 2nd year. He’s the most underrated ILB in football. He’s who everyone thinks Jarod Mayo is.

  • Rob D

    Habs lose. Steelers fail to please me..next up…I get audited, no doubt..:)

  • Eric

    NEVER as high as media had him. A little stiff in man coverage w/ avg deep speed RT @SteelRadio: @LanceZierlein what's up on Dennards fall— Lance Zierlein (@LanceZierlein) May 9, 2014

    • djanyreason

      Zierlein also tweeted that he thought Shazier was a great fit, FWIW

      • Rob D

        237 lbs 4.39 forty…he looks like superman too..O well..on to the 2nd round!

  • David

    Well, well, looks who’s gonna draft Manziel…

    (Browns trade up)

    • Randy Steele

      Damn it. The Browns might have finally got it right. Which means I hope I’m wrong.

      • djanyreason

        It’s the same spot they drafted Quinn and Wheedon. You’re probably wrong ;)

        • Rob D

          LOL..indeed..I think he’s going to get killed . My wife even said one time (very casual football fan)…”Isn’t that very dangerous..I mean..what he’s doing?” lol..I was like..yes. Very. But its college. He’ll have to change his game so much and I don’t believe he’s a Vick talent level overall..Great arm though..improvisor obviously..just too small.

          • Randy Steele

            Hope you’re right. But I don’t think so… That guy seems to have something… I don’t know…. kryptonite?

          • Rob D

            I love watching him play,Randy..I guess we shall see..

  • David

    Browns and Bungels get great CBs, the Raisins get a stud ILB. I’m not concerned about Johnny Football yet. But…

    Someone please assure me we’ll win 10 games next year!

    • Rob D

      Does that include pre-season? Then, I say yes!!

  • Rob D

    Dennard is in our division..guess we’ll find out just what we missed out on

    • David

      Lord, I’ll be thinking about us passing on him the rest of the year.

      I mean, the Brownies have Haden and Gilbert; the Bungels Dennard.

      We have Ike and Cortez.

      • Rob D

        I wasn’t chomping at the bit for Dennard or Gilbert or Fuller..but if Ike goes down..or has a 34 years olds start to the season..I’m feeling ill right now…

        • Eric

          Never a good sign when Rob is talking to himself…

          • Rob D

            you know it,Eric…it’s been a bad day and the night was worse..sigh

  • Eric
  • djanyreason

    I have a sinking feeling that Teddy ends up a Patriot…

  • Rob D

    Benjamin goes where a lot of us thought..end of the round..to Carolina

    • Cols714

      I’m surprised at this. Marquis Lee was there and they took a project WR. So dumb.

  • Canadian Steeler

    Maybe I’m just talking myself into it, but seeing Dennard fall (at least) 10 picks below where I thought he’d go made me happier about Shazier. I bet we had Mosley off our board due to injuries (similar to Lacy last year). Shazier is scary because I’m worried he’ll be swallowed up unless we improve our defensive line. If he can be free, I think he’s a great player and gives us tremendous speed in our linebackers. But that’s a big if given our current defensive line. Let’s see who else we can add.

    • ROb D

      I’m really perplexed..does anyone else think they are going to HAVE to go corner now in the 2nd?

      • Cols714

        I think so.

  • Rob D

    Pats take Easley…boom or bust pick IMO

    • Cols714

      Two ACL injuries in college? Do not want.

  • ROb D

    ..and there goes the troubled Roby..great athlete though..might be the best one amongst the CB’s according to many..

  • ROb D

    Good night, good people of SL..this boy needs some sleep..a day at the tax office is NEVER a good one…:)

  • djanyreason

    Evidently, if the Steelers didn’t take Shazier at 15 the Cowboys were going to at 16. So maybe not a reach…

    • Intropy

      The Cowboys saying they would have taken him is only further evidence of reaching.

      • Eric

        The Cowboys drafted Sean Lee 3 picks after we picked Worilds… hard to say they didn’t get the better of that.

  • EasyLikeSundayMorning

    As I mentioned in the last thread, I dreamed that we’d pick Shazier. I also dreamed that we’d pick Timmy Jernigan in the second round. If that happens, too, hopefullynill dream the lottery numbers next.

    Shazier is crazy fast. Maybe LeBeau got used to Troy playing LB and wanted another guy with a great burst.

  • EasyLikeSundayMorning

    Shazier’s reported 40-yard dash time is faster than those of guys in the division like AJ Green, Giovani Bernard and Johnny Manziel and WRs like Odell Beckham Jr and Antonio Brown. Not too shabby for a linebacker.

    One thing you have to give the Steelers credit for is that they really did not tip their hand with who they were going to pick.

    • Cols714

      Yeah, Shazier was totally not on my radar. Not with Dennard still there. Well the linebackers are certainly athletic. Jones, Timmons, Shazier, and Worilds are all pretty great athletes.

    • Eric

      I wonder if this will affect their usage of nickel and dime. Both Timmons and Shazier may be fast enough to use in some passing situations.

  • Cols714

    I’m mad that the Browns got the Bills’ 2015 first rounder. And I’m mad that they got Manziel who I love.

    Is it possible that the Browns might someday soon be good?

    • Eric

      Honestly, it would be more fun if they were at least a threat. Whereas Pittsburgh fans are getting spoiled, the diehard Browns fans deserve a little success.

      Just not too much.

      • Randy Steele

        Be careful what you wish for, Eric.

        • Eric

          Who said anything about wishing? If I have some wishes I’m not sharing them with the NFL!

          • Eric

            In seriousness though, which opponent do you get most excited about the Steelers playing? It’s the Ravens, right? You love when the Steelers beat them and hate when they lose to them. That’s because they are rivals. Unlike the sad sack Browns. It would be fun to have them as a rival again.

            Maybe that’s just me though. It’s why I find college football so boring. 85% of the games are just tomato cans and filler.

    • Canadian Steeler

      I mean it’s possible, but we are talking about the Browns here. So no.

    • EasyLikeSundayMorning

      Despite the fact that Manziel was picked at the same 1.22 slot as Quinn and Weedon (and also my comments yesterday about why I doubt Manziel will be a perennial elite QB), I actually like this pick for the Browns. They need an identity and have been bad for so long that they can take a risk. He’s a way better player than Quinn or Weedon with dramatically more upside. He’s not that expensive, so it isn’t a huge risk. But I still think he’s going to be like RG3: brilliant early and then hurt in a way that takes away a chunk of what makes him special. But if you are the Browns, why not?

  • Eric
  • Eric

    “https://twitter.com/jimwexell/statuses/464729452941811712″

  • Cols714

    Well after reading a bunch of articles I’m OK with the pick. He’s super fast, he tackles everything and he makes tons of plays. He’s like Timmons or Kuechly. Since Fuller was gone it seems like they took the BPA at a position of need as usual. He’s going to be good. Just really really explosive.

    Shazier, Mitchell, Timmons, Jones, Worilds, Heyward, Allen, Polamalu. This is one heck of an athletic defense.

    • David

      Agree, but with one big glaring hole in our D: CB

      But this pick had more to do with our lack of forcing turnovers, IMO.

      • Cols714

        Yep. He’ll start right away and the Steelers will do what they always do with CBs, draft one in the 2nd or 3rd round and let them develop into a starter for 2015.

        • Eric

          I agree with this.

          “https://twitter.com/postgameheroes/statuses/464814720563036160″

  • Cols714

    I just realized that Shazier was on Ted’s list of dudes not to draft. I wonder what his reaction is.

  • David

    BTW, something’s really bothering me right now. I can swear I remember, during my shock and dismay of not hearing Dennard’s name for our pick, that the NFL Network showed a highlight of Shazier in the 40 yd dash INJURING his hammy.

    Anyone else see this? Anyone else also think of Kendrell Bell upon seeing this?

    BTW, I exclusively watch NFLN’s coverage, as ESPN’s with Ray Ray was too much to bear.

    • Rob D

      You are correct David. In fact, I think he looked like he did something to both hammys…lol Plus he has a rare disease that made him lose his hair. So at least I have hair loss in common with him…:) (I don’t think it’s a serious condition, but if it is,,my apologies for making light fun of it)